Author Topic: WW1 UBoats 1/72 Austro-Ungarian Navy (Read 24816 times)

falo · « **on:** 24 Jan , 2014, 05:07 »

Hi there,

just for those who want to build a very rare boat from the WW1 era.

http://www.wmm.at/11-navy-line/11-navy-line/11-navy-line/11-navy-line/28-smu-12.html

http://www.wmm.at/11-navy-line/11-navy-line/11-navy-line/11-navy-line/27-smu-5-6.html

No Sub, but look at this WW1 Torpedoboat (again 1/72 scale ). It looks al little bit like a ship from a Jules Verne novel resp. movie:

http://www.wmm.at/11-navy-line/11-navy-line/11-navy-line/11-navy-line/11-navy-line/20-sms-adler-falke-torpedoboot-der-k-u-k-kriegsmarine.html

Best regards
Falo

SG · « **Reply #1 on:** 24 Jan , 2014, 06:49 »

Beautiful to both the subs and the torped boat. A bit pricey but beautiful models for sure. Thanks for sharing!
A propos, there's an amazing building thread of a similar torpedoboat (but in a much smaller scale) here:
http://www.shipmodels.info/mws_forum/viewtopic.php?f=59&t=74917
Cheers

falo · « **Reply #2 on:** 24 Jan , 2014, 09:00 »

Here is another WW1sub. This time a german U boat:

http://www.steelnavy.com/CombatModelsU31MGrima.htm

Scale is again 1/72 and the model is based upon the Combat Models vacu-kit.

Regards
falo

Capt Kremin · « **Reply #3 on:** 31 Jan , 2014, 22:45 »

Hi All

Need some crew, try
http://www.b-b-t-o-y-s.de/product_info.php?language=en&info=p1926_1-72-nikolai-kuk02-wwi-austro-hungarian-submarine-crew.html&=

Regards
Jon

falo · « **Reply #4 on:** 02 Aug , 2014, 02:18 »

Hi Cap, hi SG,

here is a link for another WW1-Uboat producer. But IMO its for just for exhibition affairs.

Besides I like the look of these earlier boats. They looks "in-between" to me, a little bit like Jules Verne and Dreadnoughts but also dangerous and (vintage) high-tech. Would be nice to have a good 1/72 kit from SMS-U9 or SMS-U35. Maybe a upcoming scratch project ...

http://sdmodelmakers.com/shop/product/u-31-class-uboat-submarine-model-23-inch/

Regards
Falo

Capt Kremin · « **Reply #5 on:** 02 Aug , 2014, 07:02 »

Hi falo,

also takes the fun out of the I built that factor

Regards
Jon

falo · « **Reply #6 on:** 02 Aug , 2014, 09:10 »

Hi Cap,

please look at this, just found that link for a few minutes accidentally!

http://www.u-boot.info

SMS U-35 will follow during october 2014. I like the idea to show the whole interior and the translucent hull shape of the inner sections.

Regards
Falo

Capt Kremin · « **Reply #7 on:** 02 Aug , 2014, 11:10 »

Hi falo,

They look quite good, according to the English pages they are laser cut beech wood and vivak (clear thermoforming polyester).

According to my figures the U 35 comes out at about 90cm and the UB III about 77cm, with a price of €382.75 for the UB III, with interior (no crew) I don't feel they are outrageously expensive compared to buying a type VIIC or type IXC and adding the CMK interior. Don't know how accurate they are, not done any research on WW1 boats other than a morbid fascination with the British K Class and the later M class.

Regards
Jon

falo · « **Reply #8 on:** 03 Aug , 2014, 04:06 »

Hi Cap,

yes I quite agree: Comparing to the costs of the inner sections from cmk the price for the WW1 boat seems adequate.

At a first look to the shown pictures there will be IMO space to add some hand wheels, pipping and wire some cables to add more details to the sections. All the mentioned stuff can be purchased as a economical random pe fret. I'am sorely tempted to contact the website and ask for the SMS U35 price and exact release date. Maybe a good X-Mas present for my fathers son ;-)

Regards
Falo

SG · « **Reply #9 on:** 03 Aug , 2014, 09:59 »

Falo: another 2 great catches, especially the UBIII!!! Also, the photogallery at http://www.u-boot.info/01ubiii/text2.html looks amazing Thanks so much for sharing those links!
SG

falo · « **Reply #10 on:** 03 Aug , 2014, 14:49 »

Hi SG,

I did not see the photo gallery until now, so thanks for browsing the website and the link. I like the camouflage scheme of the conning tower and (another boat) the pattern with huge blotches. IMO it would be no easy task to track the used colors for that boats.

As described before: The photos of the inner sections shows that the model kit needs some piping and hand wheel updates and so on.

Regards
Falo

SG · « **Reply #11 on:** 04 Aug , 2014, 10:19 »

Quote from: falo on 03 Aug , 2014, 14:49

As described before: The photos of the inner sections shows that the model kit needs some piping and hand wheel updates and so on.

..something like this i suppose

(found in that photo gallery)

falo · « **Reply #12 on:** 04 Aug , 2014, 10:27 »

Hi SG,

I'am so sure: The hand wheel left above is for starting the "fluxcompensator" ;-)

Regards
"Doc" Falo

Capt Kremin · « **Reply #13 on:** 04 Aug , 2014, 11:31 »

Hi falo et al

Good luck on colours, it could be camo or it could even be dazzle, see photo, ok it's only in fun but could be close, there were a lot of boats and ships using various versions of dazzle camoflage.

Regards
Jon

Capt Kremin · « **Reply #14 on:** 04 Aug , 2014, 12:02 »

Hi all,

Whilst I was playing with PSP, not saying it is but it could be!

Regards
Jon

OldNoob · « **Reply #15 on:** 04 Aug , 2014, 12:57 »

Quote from: falo on 02 Aug , 2014, 09:10

http://www.u-boot.info

Regards
Falo

Now that is cool!

falo · « **Reply #16 on:** 04 Aug , 2014, 13:43 »

Hi Cap,

nice camouflage, saw photos for while of british ww1-ships with dazzle camo on "spiegel-online". Looks creative and nearly artistic as you can see:

http://www.spiegel.de/fotostrecke/dazzle-schiffstarnung-fotostrecke-107243.html

Regards
Falo

Capt Kremin · « **Reply #17 on:** 04 Aug , 2014, 14:13 »

Hi falo,

Nice find. According to a report I read many years ago these bizzare patterns were partly effective, in so much that they confused the size, speed and even the direction of travel to an enemy. Although I would imagine that they would not confuse a well trained observer for more than a couple of seconds.

Regards
Jon

falo · « **Reply #18 on:** 05 Aug , 2014, 14:42 »

Hi Cap,

according to the "Spiegel"-article the british navy recruited artists for that dazzle paints. Maybe an example that abstract art saves souls and is distracting the enemies. Doesn't matter if art affine or not ;-)

Regards
Falo

falo · « **Reply #19 on:** 12 Aug , 2014, 14:04 »

Hi Gentlemen,

once more here are links for WW1 Boats:

http://www.arbeitskreis-historischer-schiffbau.de/modell/2011/UC21/uc21.htm
(Minelayer, scale 1/100, scratch with self made brass- and pe-parts, hull is made from resin)

http://www.arbeitskreis-historischer-schiffbau.de/modell/2010/u9/u9.htm
(the famous U9, again scale 1/100 and scratch, self made brass- and pe-parts)

U9 was a so called "Petroleum-Boat". You can see the funnel on the deck behind the conning tower. Before every dive the boat crew had to lay down the funnel.

Regards
Falo

Capt Kremin · « **Reply #20 on:** 12 Aug , 2014, 14:17 »

Hi falo et al,

If you think the U 9 is quirky check out the British K class which were more dangerous to themselves than the enemy.

Regards
Jon

SG · « **Reply #21 on:** 13 Aug , 2014, 07:36 »

..and if you're interested in K class boats Jon, you will surely like this page from a living legend: Jim Baumann
http://www.modelwarships.com/reviews/ships/hms/k-class/350-cs-jb/jb-review.html
Falo: great links, thanks!!!
Cheers!

falo · « **Reply #22 on:** 13 Aug , 2014, 10:28 »

Hi Cap, hi SG,

thank you both for the links, Gentlemen. What a strange design! IMO it's rather more Bugatti style - particularly the bow - than Jules Verne.

Thanks again and regards
Falo

Capt Kremin · « **Reply #23 on:** 13 Aug , 2014, 15:47 »

Hi SG & falo,

That's a a nice little build blog, the end result is very good. On the subject of dangerous submarines, excuding the CSS Hunley, which killed 2 crews, the most dangerous class has to be the British M class they were developed from cancelled K class boats, 4 ordered 3 built 2 sunk with total loss of live, whilst the M1 was comissioned during WWI none of the boats were used in wartime operations. Some sites state the fourth boat was built but not comissioned.

Regards
Jon

falo · « **Reply #24 on:** 23 Aug , 2014, 04:45 »

Hi Gents,

let's go on with my obsession for WW1-Subs. I take some pictures from SM-U53 at my local museum. The first picture shows the information-board of the u-boat (scale 1:50)

Regards
Falo

P.S. @ Cap Kremin:
Please don't be disappointed this boat is not able to match the design of your mentioned british ww1-subs

falo · « **Reply #25 on:** 23 Aug , 2014, 04:48 »

Part 2:

Regards
Falo

falo · « **Reply #26 on:** 23 Aug , 2014, 04:49 »

Last part.

Regards
Falo

Capt Kremin · « **Reply #27 on:** 23 Aug , 2014, 08:17 »

Hi falo,

other than max depth and number of torpedos and tubes, she would not have looked too far out of place in the Kriegsmarine and she had a record that the kriegsmarine could only dream of.

Regards
Jon

SG · « **Reply #28 on:** 26 Aug , 2014, 09:15 »

Falo great pics. u're lucky to have a local museum at hand which displays WW1 U-boat models!!
thanks, as usual, for posting the pics!

falo · « **Reply #29 on:** 29 Aug , 2014, 09:38 »

Hi Gents,

when I started this thread I mentioned a WW1-Austro-Ungarian Torpedoboot. Meanwhile I find a report of the model constructor of the 1/72 scale kit Mr. Peter Plattner. The report is in german but studded with a lot of pictures. Peter Plattner constructed also the 1/72 WW1 Subs for the company "Wiener Modellbaumanufaktur", as well mentioned in the first post of this thread.

http://www.modellmarine.de/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=3726:oesterreichisch-ungarisches-torpedoboot-adler-172-wmm-von-peter-plattner&catid=288

Regards
falo

SG · « **Reply #30 on:** 01 Sep , 2014, 09:30 »

What a great page..and model!!! Many thanks Falo

falo · « **Reply #31 on:** 06 Sep , 2014, 04:55 »

Hi Gentlemen,

don't know if you have seen this (Propaganda) Movie:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KrP5WSGcxZ8

It's about SM U35 during a ww1 mission under the command of Lothar von Arnauld de la Periere. For more information about that boat please follow this link to Wikipedia:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SM_U-35_(Germany)

Regards
Falo

falo · « **Reply #32 on:** 18 Sep , 2014, 14:34 »

Hi,

find a kit review of Combat Models U9 vacu kit (1/72 scale). AFAIK it is a rare review of this vacuform kit. According to the review there is a lot of work to do if a accurate model is wanted.

http://cs.finescale.com/fsm/modeling_subjects/f/7/t/160719.aspx

Regards
Falo

falo · « **Reply #33 on:** 16 Oct , 2014, 08:10 »

Hi,

the International Maritime Museum in Hamburg/Germany will start today a exhibition called "Tief unten" (Deep down) about german WW1 U-Boat warfare:

http://www.imm-hamburg.de/veranstaltungen/sonderausstellung/

Amongst others rare photos from a private collector can be seen and private documents from Otto Wedding. The exhibition will last till December. If I get the chance to visit the museum, I will post some pictures.

Regards
falo

SG · « **Reply #34 on:** 17 Oct , 2014, 04:28 »

Falo thats great news! the exibition promises well. Wish i were in Hamburg!! If you go take thousands of pics!!
thanks in advance

Capt Kremin · « **Reply #35 on:** 17 Oct , 2014, 13:29 »

Hi falo,

Yes please on the photos, all info U-boats welcome

Regards
Jon

falo · « **Reply #36 on:** 17 Oct , 2014, 16:18 »

Hi SG, hi Cap,

will do my best. Hope there will be no ban on photo cameras.

Regards
falo

falo · « **Reply #37 on:** 28 Jan , 2018, 13:51 »

Hi folks,

found this interactive website about U-8 (WW1):

https://www.cloudtour.tv/u8/

Regards
falo

SG · « **Reply #38 on:** 06 Feb , 2018, 11:28 »

I love that! Thx Falo