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Rokket · « **on:** 29 Aug , 2009, 02:26 »

some pix from Batfish (is that even a real fish)

Division 6 · « **Reply #1 on:** 29 Aug , 2009, 07:48 »

Neat pix.
If you go to the Batfish forum that are pictures of them replacing the decking so you can see some of the inside.

http://www.submarinemuseums.org/forum/

I believe all the names ae based on real creatures many in the shark family.
The Gato is supposed to be a Tiger Shark, gato being Spanish for cat.

One of those silly bits of info you find in books.

Batfish
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Batfish is a name given to several fishes:

* Malthe vespertilio of the Atlantic coast.
* The flying gurnard of the Atlantic (Cephalacanthus spinarel).
* The California batfish or sting ray (Myliobatis californicus).
* Members of the family Ephippidae, especially Platax.
* Members of the family Ogcocephalidae.
* Red-lipped batfish

More than likely it's supposed to be a Sting Ray.

Eric...

Rokket · « **Reply #2 on:** 29 Aug , 2009, 21:46 »

Sting ray? Wouldn't that be a cool name for a sub! Hey, no one ever did Tuna, did they? Or the Fish & Chips Please. not to be disrespectful, it's just some of the names are...less than stellar! I think weapon "name" and expect graceful, powerful, strong, etc. Not lunch! or "cute"

Division 6 · « **Reply #3 on:** 29 Aug , 2009, 23:34 »

Stingray is the name of the boat in the movie Down Periscope.
They used the Pampanito for the movie.

Kinda like the British having a Flower class of ships and calling one them the Pansy.

E...

Mike K · « **Reply #4 on:** 30 Aug , 2009, 10:11 »

Two boats named USS Stingray. SS-13 and SS-186
SS-13: "C" Class, C-2 Variant, In Commission 23 Nov 1909 - 23 Dec 1919
SS-186: Salmon Class, Snapper Variant, In Commission 15 Mar 1938 - 17 Oct 1945, 16 war patrols

OK?
Mike K.

Mike K · « **Reply #5 on:** 30 Aug , 2009, 10:20 »

USS Tune Two boats SS-27 & SS-203
SS-27 Name changed to G-2 Class "G" G-2 Variant, In Commission 6 Feb 1916 - 2 Apr 1919
SS-203 Tambor Class, Triton Variant, In Commission 2 Jan 1940 - 11 Dec 1946, 14 war patrols

aptivaboy · « **Reply #6 on:** 30 Aug , 2009, 11:24 »

Kinda like the British having a Flower class of ships and calling one them the Pansy.

That was too much, even for the Brits. They changed her name while building to the HMS Heartsease. She was transferred to the USN and became the USS Courage.

Two almost USN fleet boat names that were cancelled that I've always liked are the Trembler and the Senorita. I can see the crew of the first one being ribbed about whether their boat was scared to go into combat, and there are just so many things you could say to someone on a boat named the Senorita. The Permit's name was changed to Permit after the navy realized that her original name, the Pinna, sounded too biological, from the male point of view, if you catch my drift, and they were scared what ribald jokes would be made out of her name.

Its kind of like that episode of The Simpsons when they were evacuated from Australia after Bart insulted the Australian government. There are just sooo many things you can do with a name. They thought they'd be landing on a big, macho aircraft carrier. Instead, they landed on, "The USS Walter Mondale. A laundry ship!"

Rokket · « **Reply #7 on:** 31 Aug , 2009, 02:05 »

Thanks guys - Mike, should ahve known you'd have the info! (Have completed a rough of the bottom flood plan, checking a few things).

USS Courage - see? THAT's a name! (and it avoids all that Pinna stuff!)

Division 6 · « **Reply #8 on:** 07 Sep , 2009, 17:32 »

Here is something I just noticed.
Looking at this picture.
Right in front of the dive plane where the bow plating meets the hull (where the 5 is) notice the small openings along the seam.

Now I took a look and can make it out on a few other boats.

I enlarged the area.

Eric...

Division 6 · « **Reply #9 on:** 07 Sep , 2009, 18:09 »

Anchor well and anchor needs replacing as well.

Eric...

Rokket · « **Reply #10 on:** 08 Sep , 2009, 01:28 »

Ya, thanks a lot for that...it's no trouble no extra work...thanks, really!

Division 6 · « **Reply #11 on:** 08 Sep , 2009, 04:07 »

You guy's have put the bar pretty high already.
The model may be accurate for some boats just not mine.

Some of the boats anchor wells are partially covered so there is no real extra work.

Eric...

Rokket · « **Reply #12 on:** 09 Sep , 2009, 06:05 »

maybe, sounds like you're just trying to make us feel better!

Division 6 · « **Reply #13 on:** 18 Sep , 2009, 18:10 »

So I was looking around on Google and re-found this picture of the Lionfish that I already had on my computer.
I noticed that something was going on behind the dive plane openings so started digging around my files.

SO, I started looking at the Pampanito since she had her planes down while in dry dock, same cylinders.

I remember having a couple pix of the inside of the dive plane area and it turns out there are 3 air bottles in there against the outer shell.

I also recently found this pic from the Cod showing the same bottles.

Thought I would share.

Eric...

Division 6 · « **Reply #14 on:** 18 Sep , 2009, 19:59 »

Found a picture from the Batfish.

I really wish that these guy's working on this boat would have taken better pictures showing the insides of this thing.
They could have fully documented all the piping and fixtures under the deck.

Eric...

Rokket · « **Reply #15 on:** 19 Sep , 2009, 01:41 »

I aree, but still, this is great stuff! Got to ry and work out what they are for.

Division 6 · « **Reply #16 on:** 19 Sep , 2009, 17:16 »

Here's an interesting picture of the Pomodon (Tench Class) as she is being converted to a Guppy configuration.

Eric...

Division 6 · « **Reply #17 on:** 19 Sep , 2009, 18:28 »

Found a pic of the canisters inside the Silversides.

Division 6 · « **Reply #18 on:** 19 Sep , 2009, 19:44 »

Virtual Tour inside the Pampanito.
http://www.maritime.org/tour/fdeck-below.php

They are as I thought, air for the torpedo tubes.

Eric...

Rokket · « **Reply #19 on:** 20 Sep , 2009, 02:01 »

Great info, MUCHLY appreciated. Nice shots too, esp. that cutup Tambor.

Side note: half the molds done for Balao style shutters and bow inserts (pic soon of test cast), and valley's looking good!

Division 6 · « **Reply #20 on:** 07 Oct , 2009, 14:22 »

Found this bit of info on the flasks.

The impulse flasks, forming part of the impulse air system, are steel cylinders, dome-shaped at each end. One of the domed ends is flanged and is provided with a port which connects to the impulse lines. There is an impulse flask for each torpedo tube. The six flasks that are mounted in the superstructure above the forward torpedo room are approximately 5 feet 10 inches in length and 16 inches in diameter; the four flasks mounted below the after torpedo room deck are approximately 5 feet 3 inches, in length and 18 inches in diameter.

Eric...

Rokket · « **Reply #21 on:** 08 Oct , 2009, 02:12 »

I'm only 5'6", they're my size! Nice detailed info, thanks.

Division 6 · « **Reply #22 on:** 08 Oct , 2009, 17:11 »

Using a model scaling program to calculate the size for the canisters comes out be 0.97" x 0.22" or 2.47cm x 0.56cm

Eric...