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Title: Vesikko website
Post by: Rokket on 18 May , 2009, 03:18
From Timo Merensilta, our own Urpok, a great site on Vesikko:

http://www.vesikko.fi/ (http://www.vesikko.fi/)

Thanks mate! :)
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Post by: UrpoK on 18 May , 2009, 23:40
Thanks for this topic Wink!

I
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Post by: Rokket on 21 May , 2009, 05:30
Tell us more about the book!!!
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Post by: wildspear on 21 May , 2009, 07:38
I would like to have that book when complete. Great site.
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Post by: UrpoK on 23 May , 2009, 02:59
Hi guys,

Thanks for your interest!

Submarine Vesikko has been my real love since I saw it in Suomenlinna Sea Fortress when I was seven.  ::)
So writing a book about the subject is a dream come true.

There are many hints to CV 707 / Vesikko in submarine books but no monographs except one booklet with only few images. So I wanted to make a book for both history and modeling enthusiastic.

History of Vesikko is much more than a story of one sub. CV 707 was a technical leap and true starting point of new German u-boat arm in 1930
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Post by: dougie47 on 24 May , 2009, 15:30
Hi Urpok,

Your book sounds extremely interesting. I'll certainly buy a copy when it is available.

Please keep us informed when it will be released.

Cheers,

Dougie

 
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Post by: UrpoK on 02 Jun , 2009, 02:56
Hi,

I got some more facts from my publisher Hobby-Kustannus Oy:
- The book about submarine Vesikko will come out 1st September.
- The price is 49,95 Euros + postage.
- ISBN 9789525334074
- 224 pages (48 color pages)
- The size of the hard cover book is landscape A4.
- An English language summary and extended photo captions.

The name in Finnish is
Title: Re: Vesikko website
Post by: UrpoK on 11 Sep , 2009, 12:48
Hi guys!

The Vesikko book will finally get out 28th September.
Then we
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Post by: Rokket on 11 Sep , 2009, 22:47
Fantastic news, hope it goes great!
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Post by: UrpoK on 03 Oct , 2009, 10:44
The Vesikko book was released last Monday.

We had press conference and all went well:
Several TV channels, radio stations and newspapers made their story about Vesikko and the book.
I hope this will help to get more funds for the museum submarine.

We had some good time with the TV reporter (commercial MTV3) in Vesikko:
http://www.katsomo.fi/?progId=21884&itemId=18073 (http://www.katsomo.fi/?progId=21884&itemId=18073)
That funny sounding language is Finnish.  :D
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Post by: dougie47 on 03 Oct , 2009, 13:13
Hi Timo,

I have filled in the form to allow me to order your book. Really looking forward to it. I just wish I could read Finnish so that I could read it all!

I trust your press conference in Helsinki went well.

Congratulations on completing your book.

Cheers,

Dougie
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Post by: Rokket on 03 Oct , 2009, 16:57
Congratulations, wishing you great success with the book, sounds terrific!
Cheers,
Wink
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Post by: Anakin on 09 Oct , 2009, 11:11
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Post by: dougie47 on 17 Oct , 2009, 08:24
Hi Timo,

I received your book today. Wow, you have done well. The book exceeded my expectations, with no negative points at all. There are numerous period photos, all of which are printed in very high quality. There are also some really great shots of Type IIs, again in good quality.

Given that I cannot speak Finnish I cannot make comment on the main text. But the English captions are very helpful, especially to the modeller. The most helpful point for the modeller is that you have made comments on how the boat was changed and her colour schemes. The book is in chronological order, which helps to build the picture of the boat's various features and colour schemes. The colour side profiles also help enormously in this regard.

The 45 colour walk-around photos of the Vesikko are also essential. They provide a modeller with sufficient research material for a superdetail project.

Altogether it is a perfect research resource for a Vesikko build.

Well done!

Dougie


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Post by: UrpoK on 19 Oct , 2009, 12:45
Thanks Dougie! Thanks Anakin!
Great to hear that you like the book!  :)

It was a wonderful experience for me to write an U-boat book.
Hope you enjoy it.

All comments, criticism and ideas for future research are welcome.

Timo
Title: Re: Vesikko website
Post by: UrpoK on 05 Dec , 2009, 11:32
Hi guys,

Last week I got a mail from the production manager of MPM / Special Navy.
He told that the 1/72 Vesikko kit really is in their production plan for 2010.   :)

Timo
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Post by: Anakin on 05 Dec , 2009, 12:03
Hi guys,

Last week I got a mail from the production manager of MPM / Special Navy.
He told that the 1/72 Vesikko kit really is in their production plan for 2010.   :)

Timo

Hi Timo.

I talked to local model seller and he (Kuivalainen) heard from MPM that the model should be released in the last quarter of 2010.
Quite long waiting...  :)

-Anakin-
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Post by: UrpoK on 05 Dec , 2009, 12:47
Auts...
Well the good news is that they have not given up the Vesikko kit.
I was already a bit pessimistic.

If the kit comes out in one year I have enough time to complete my IIA.
I build rather slowly. Family man problem, you know.  :-\
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Post by: Anakin on 05 Dec , 2009, 13:12

I build rather slowly. Family man problem, you know.  :-\


As a single parent i know... Not too much time...
Title: Re: Vesikko website
Post by: Anakin on 05 Jan , 2010, 14:40
Hey Timo...

Do you have some plans for Vesikko 1/72 kit?  I was thinking maybe a camo painting or so would be cool... But correct me if i
Title: Re: Vesikko website
Post by: UrpoK on 06 Jan , 2010, 12:11
Hi Anakin,

You are right: the depth charge dropper was installed 1942-43 while Vesikko had black and white splinter camouflage. Dropper is not difficult for a modeler for some scratch experience.

Now I
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Post by: Anakin on 12 Jan , 2010, 09:27
Hi Timo.

I know the national archive/archive inc. has digitalized micro films with war diaries, plans and info about Finnish submarines (all of them) so i was wondering
have you seen them? I mean the camo painting etc...

http://kronos.narc.fi/aarre/aarre.php?t=aineistot&auktunnus=32817 (http://kronos.narc.fi/aarre/aarre.php?t=aineistot&auktunnus=32817)

And if this is familiar to you, is it hard to see this all or even get some copies?

-Anakin-
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Post by: Anakin on 24 Sep , 2010, 09:16

Another possibility is the 1940 all black colour with big number 5 on both sides of the CT.

In 1941 Vesikko had four color diamond camouflage. I should be also very interesting. But I have to do some digging before I dare to guess how the colors were placed.  ::)

Timo

Hi Timo.

I
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Post by: billp51d on 24 Sep , 2010, 10:09
          Anakin....."Out of the mouths of babes!" (I'm sure it's not just an American expression.)
                                                                                Bill
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Post by: LE BOSCO on 24 Sep , 2010, 11:17
Hi anakin

congratulation has your son! It's NZSnowman which goes have of the concern :D :D The continuation it is ready

best regards
Nicolas
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Post by: Anakin on 24 Sep , 2010, 13:03
Thank you for your kind words Sir Bosco.   :)   

Simon, beware... My son is also drawind u-boats... Some U.S. Gato already finished at pre school...    ;D 
Teachers are wondering where my son gets his ideas... Hmmm...  Can
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Post by: Rokket on 25 Sep , 2010, 01:53
too funny guys! (and great stuff!)
Title: Re: Vesikko website
Post by: Anakin on 07 Dec , 2010, 10:50
It has been quiet for modelling for me...  But Not so quiet to look what is going on and what is coming...
I e-mailed (again) to MPM and asked the releasing date of long waited CV-707 Vesikko.
Here is the answer...

Hello,

We had to postpone this kit due to other products to be released this year.

The plan is to release Vesikko in the spring 2011.

best regards
Jan Hajicek
MPM Production


So the waiting goes on... In the meanwhile... I
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Post by: Anakin on 19 Mar , 2011, 08:03
Some good news about Vesikko. The War museum is going to invest 350 000 to 450 000 euros to preserve the U-boat. Vesikko is to be raised about 40cm more to prevent seawater corrosion.
The outer hull parts (some of them) will be replaced. Also the interior will be painted. The work starts after summer season when she will be hoised up slowly. The hoisting should last 2 or 3 days. 
The preservation should be finished in the spring of 2013 when is the Vesikkos 80th birthday fair.

I hope they also re-built the periscope and ct to the shape she looked at the 30
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Post by: NZSnowman on 19 Mar , 2011, 12:40
That great news!!!  :) :)
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Post by: dougie47 on 19 Mar , 2011, 13:02
Hi Anakin,

Great news on the Vesikko. I wish similar money was spend on U 995! Hopefully MPM will release their kit soon.

Cheers,

Dougie
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Post by: Rokket on 19 Mar , 2011, 14:28
That is fantastic! I think The Vesikko is under appreciated as it's own history, and sub history. I hope they continue raising money.

The CT and scope, that is SOME project (at least it was for the Cobia crew!), but very much worth it.
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Post by: Anakin on 19 Mar , 2011, 15:00
That is fantastic! I think The Vesikko is under appreciated as it's own history, and sub history. I hope they continue raising money.

The CT and scope, that is SOME project (at least it was for the Cobia crew!), but very much worth it.

Indeed it is...  The scope was made from some kind of air ventilation pipe just to look like one.. Really ugly IMO! I hope they put some effort to build a better one... 

When the Vesikko was storaged at the Valmet machinery yards in the 70
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Post by: Rokket on 27 Mar , 2011, 02:04
keep us posted!
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Post by: Anakin on 13 Jun , 2011, 10:58
Me and my son visited Vesikko last weekend. Waiting for the preservation so i took a little closer look at her hull and i must say it
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Post by: Rokket on 18 Jun , 2011, 23:13
I visited 4 Gatos last year and it was a similar story. One was in the Atlantic, flaky rust, pretty much just a matter of time before she is gone. I think she rests on concrete pillars under the water, so she may not sink, but she might be unvisitable in a  few years. 2 were in great shape, but are in fresh water. 1 was in good shape, but is maintained by Navu help, and they have relaced the wood deck with steel tubing that is about the same size and looks roughly like wood.

I guess the best way is a museum building like U 505. But BIG money
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Post by: Anakin on 13 Aug , 2011, 14:29
Vesikkos preservation started few days ago. They shipped gravel by truck and ferry under the boat. The museum is open till the end of this month so the hoisting of the boat starts in 3 weeks.

(http://oi54.tinypic.com/2h84vx5.jpg)

At the moment there is really hard to get any information about the restoration but i think when it really starts there is going to be writings and clips in local newspapers and television. We
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Post by: Rokket on 13 Aug , 2011, 18:40
Glad it is actually happening!
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Post by: Anakin on 08 Oct , 2011, 11:19
It was suppose to be a nice weather today so me and my son headed to Suomenlinna to see Vesikko again!
The weather was great +9 celcius and light wind... First we stopped at Maneesi museum where was this exhibition about underwater
discoveries around the fortress. Wrecks and so on. Russian engineers plans how to make a super size dry dock between two of the largest
islands of Suomenlinna. Really interesting if i may say!  :) But when we stepped out there was already raining and we didn
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Post by: Rokket on 11 Oct , 2011, 02:20
always sad to see less than perfect (or at least really good) restoration. USS Lionfish is like Swiss cheese in rusty tissue paper, probably not much could be done to her and she will go.
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Post by: Anakin on 08 Nov , 2011, 10:43
We visited Vesikko again last weekend... Small progress is seen. A company named Ship Repair and Conversion  www.src.ee (http://www.src.ee) is working with a small crane making some lifting points for a bigger crane.
Here are few pics...

(http://oi43.tinypic.com/kevtlh.jpg)

(http://oi41.tinypic.com/9fwrnq.jpg)

(http://oi42.tinypic.com/r1zc01.jpg)

The fall here is almost over soon and we are waiting the weather getting colder soon... It should be snowing and the temperature getting below zero in two weeks or so.
Perhaps next saturday me and my son will take the last visit to Suomenlinna this year to see Vesikko and some tall ships in the Suomenlinna drydock built in 1700 century.
Enjoying the hot smoked salmon soup at the cafe balcony in the fortress! http://www.suomenlinna.fi/en/ (http://www.suomenlinna.fi/en/)  :)

-Anakin-
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Post by: Rokket on 08 Nov , 2011, 23:28
Very cool place! Enjoy the soup!
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Post by: Anakin on 29 Sep , 2012, 13:42
It has been a quite a lot of time since last update... At this moment Vesikkos keel is rebuilt and most of the rusted outer hull parts too. Mostly the plates with flooding holes. Looks like the work is to be done by the cheap way because all the rusted parts not to be visible (between pressurehull and surface plating) were not treated anyway with anti corrosion...  A really sad sight! Anyway the whole hull is water blasted to remove the old paint and the wooden deck is gone by now.  I don
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Post by: dougie47 on 01 Oct , 2012, 11:08
Hi Anakin,

Thanks for updating us on the Vesikko. Since it will remain outside, exposed to the elements all year round, it is so important to have quality maintenance and restoration at regular intervals. It's a bit concerning to hear that not all parts were treated with anti-corrosion. Perhaps this is a cost issue. Either way it would be good to see the result once the restoration is complete.

Cheers,

Dougie
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Post by: Anakin on 01 Dec , 2012, 12:56
Finally i have heard some news and facts about Vesikko... Last time i saw her she was coated with yellow sheets and some black paint (anticorrosion). Now the war museum people are starting to preserve inner parts of the boat. The voice pipes should be operational next summer, beds and seats should be good as new too. Also the rudders agle position device/gauge will be working and in use for visitors... Sounds great to me.  :)  The best thing i
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Post by: Rokket on 01 Dec , 2012, 16:31
Good news! Keep her preserved!
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Post by: Greif on 06 Dec , 2012, 07:58
It is really nice to hear that your countrymen are working hard to preserve the Vesikko.  One of these days I would like to make a trip to Finland and visit her.  Once the restoration is complete I might just have to talk my wife into a short trip to the Helsinki area.   :P   I wonder how I could sell that idea to her?!  Thank you for taking the timw to visit the boat and keeping us all up to date on the restoration progress.
 
Ernest
 
 
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Post by: Anakin on 06 Dec , 2012, 10:55
Well perhaps you shoud carefully start to talking about it...   ;)   You might want to look Visit Helsinki (http://www.visithelsinki.fi/en) web site first...   At summer time Helsinki and the Fortress Suomenlinna are really beutiful places to see...   

-Anakin-
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Post by: Anakin on 19 Jan , 2013, 14:22
Today was a cold day in Suomenlinna fortress...  -26 celcius and some light wind was blowing! Quite chilly! ;)

Vesikkos stern is still covered with yellow tarp. Wonder what is going on? Maybe they are working with the rudder or something...
Or maybe they aren
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Post by: Anakin on 01 May , 2013, 10:06
The snow and ice is finally gone... Four weeks and my summer vacation begins! Doesn
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Post by: SG on 01 May , 2013, 12:10
Fab!
standing by
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Post by: Anakin on 05 May , 2013, 07:32
Beautiful but chilly day in the fortress...

(http://i41.tinypic.com/308ifjn.jpg)

-Anakin-
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Post by: dougie47 on 05 May , 2013, 13:21
Hello Anakin,

Thanks so much for posting this photo. The Vesikko looks stunning in this paint scheme! I'm so glad they painted it this way.

Cheers,

Dougie
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Post by: SG on 06 May , 2013, 13:28
(http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m130/s-germani/Uboats/IMGP2294.jpg) (http://s103.photobucket.com/user/s-germani/media/Uboats/IMGP2294.jpg.html)
 
The Vesikko finally wears her old clothes again..
Great restoration. They did an excellent work. Looks like a happy ending!
Thanks for sharing Anakin, am on standby for new posts!
 
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Post by: Anakin on 07 May , 2013, 09:20
And what comes to MPM Vesikko scalemodel...  I
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Post by: dougie47 on 07 May , 2013, 13:36
Hi Anakin,

I was wondering about the MPM Vesikko. They mentioned that it might be a conversion kit did they? Hmm, I suspect they may go down this line rather than a new kit.

Thanks for the info,

Dougie
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Post by: Anakin on 10 May , 2013, 11:58
WTB.  My friend here is searching for the book of Vesikko. Anyone who is willing to sell the book, PM or what ever to contact me.   :)