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Re: VIIC/41 - Schematices drawing
« Reply #1305 on: 04 Dec , 2015, 14:10 »
May have got carry away with is model… I model the Tarnmatte in 3-D  ;D ;D



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Re: VIIC/41 - Schematices drawing
« Reply #1306 on: 05 Dec , 2015, 00:56 »
Hi Snowman,


once more: thank you very much for sharing.


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Re: VIIC/41 - Schematices drawing
« Reply #1307 on: 10 Dec , 2015, 12:47 »
I have uploaded the new 3-D model of the Schnorchel restraining bracket.

https://3dwarehouse.sketchup.com/collection.html?id=u4a2facb6-00be-441c-a5e5-ffd7a3c3549d

Schnorchel Restraining Bracket

When the Schnorchel mast is upright it is contained within the Schnorchel restraining bracket, which is located at the top of the conning tower. The schnorchel mast is locked into position by a large locking pin, which is controlled from within the Control Room.

Tore, grease line I estimate about 8 mm?

3-D model upload to https://3dwarehouse.sketchup.com/collection.html?id=u4a2facb6-00be-441c-a5e5-ffd7a3c3549d





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Re: VIIC/41 - Schematices drawing
« Reply #1308 on: 10 Dec , 2015, 14:45 »
Simon I guess the  8mm greaseline for the threaded locking pin should be OK, may be a fraction larger see the photo below of the locking pin for U- 968.
As you probably know there is a second lockingpin securing the mast when lowered in the casing. The mast has a simple lid engaging the securingclamp by turning a handle up at the pressurehull in the COs cabin as you can see on my sktech below. In addition you have the mast position indicator up in the pressurehull in the Control room next to the hydraulic handle for the lowering and raising of the mast see the image below.
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Re: VIIC/41 - Schematices drawing
« Reply #1309 on: 10 Dec , 2015, 15:40 »
Was this part of the Schnorchel cast aluminum or wire on steel? The ribbing gives me that impression.
« Last Edit: 10 Dec , 2015, 19:07 by OldNoob »

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Re: VIIC/41 - Schematices drawing
« Reply #1310 on: 10 Dec , 2015, 19:53 »
Late war UZO (Underwasserzieloptik) with Carl Zeiss U-boat 7x50 binoculars (painted grey, with folding sight to top, additional tube extensions with covers to front, fold-up eye pieces).



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Re: VIIC/41 - Schematices drawing
« Reply #1311 on: 10 Dec , 2015, 23:36 »
Was this part of the Schnorchel cast aluminum or wire on steel? The ribbing gives me that impression.
The homingbracket for the schnorchelmast was welded steel, the reason for the strengtening ribs is that you get a tremendous load on the mast both alongship as well as atwart and you don`t want to transfer those stresses to the fulcrum being susceptible to sidestresses which might create leakages and even breakages.
May be this is an answer of a different question as yours might refer to the Tarnmatte?
Tore
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Re: VIIC/41 - Schematices drawing
« Reply #1312 on: 13 Dec , 2015, 11:29 »
Hi Maciek

Did they used the same UZO (Underwasserzieloptik) on both the Type VIIC's and Type IX (namely the late war UZO) ?

Thank's Simon

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Re: VIIC/41 - Schematices drawing
« Reply #1313 on: 13 Dec , 2015, 16:49 »
Does anyone if the sky and attack periscope has the same maximum diameter (180 mm)?

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Re: VIIC/41 - Schematices drawing
« Reply #1314 on: 13 Dec , 2015, 17:15 »
Does anyone if the sky and attack periscope has the same maximum diameter (180 mm)?

Find the anwer - Yes :)

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Re: VIIC/41 - Schematices drawing
« Reply #1315 on: 14 Dec , 2015, 00:05 »
Just upload a new 3-D model of the Nacht-Luftziel-Sehrohr Carl Zeiss Periscope NLSR C/7.

https://3dwarehouse.sketchup.com/model.html?id=ue3e1fe02-643c-47d1-b169-02190b029b72

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Re: VIIC/41 - Schematices drawing
« Reply #1316 on: 17 Dec , 2015, 00:29 »
Dougie, were the late war Type VIIC/41 painted all in dunkelgrau 52 (dark grey - RAL 7024)?

The  Type VIIC/41 seen darker than the early boats.

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Re: VIIC/41 - Schematices drawing
« Reply #1317 on: 17 Dec , 2015, 14:42 »
Hello Simon,

It is not possible to provide a definitive answer to this question. Yes, you are correct in thinking that late war boats were in general darker than early boats. There were very few light grey boats by the end of the war. Most were either quite dark or dark grey.

The lower hull was RAL7016, as we know.

I have looked again at the painting regulations for 1944 and they state (for upper hull and tower) that 58 was to be used. There were three types of 58 paint but it doesn't state which version of 58. There were three versions (58 Schlickgrau; 58/1 Blaugrau; 58/2 Blauschwarz). It isn't possible to tell from a b&w photo whether a boat had Schlickgrau or Blaugrau. Blauschwarz is very dark indeed but probably was used on some boats (U 1052 for example).

Although the regulations state 58, there may have been cases (with paint stocks being low and supply issues) where Dunkelgrau 52 could have been used on some boats. Certainly some boats were as dark as Dunkelgrau 52.

If you are debating what colour to choose for your drawing it might be best to play it safe and go for one of the 58 colours as that is what is in the regulations. What boat are you drawing and at what time?

You probably already realise this but the present paint colour of U 995 is not representative of a typical late war boat.

Cheers,

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Re: VIIC/41 - Schematices drawing
« Reply #1318 on: 18 Dec , 2015, 01:22 »
I am thinking U-1305

I wonder the reason they were are darker was by the war they were on the surface only at night time.

I will try Blaugrau 58/1 on the tower first.

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Re: VIIC/41 - Schematices drawing
« Reply #1319 on: 18 Dec , 2015, 02:26 »
Schlickgrau 58-1 LifeColor UA 609


Dunkelgrau 52 - LifeColor UA 610


Dunkelgrau 52 - RAL 7024 (CMYK)