Author Topic: Flak boats conning towers... (Read 16646 times)

Anakin · « **on:** 11 Nov , 2009, 15:52 »

Hi!

While surfing and looking u-boat pics i found some interesting things... I think some Flak boats was converted from VIIC and it

Anakin · « **Reply #1 on:** 12 Nov , 2009, 02:16 »

From U-Boat.net.. (U-441, U-256, U-621 and U-953) was converted from VIIC to Flaks. So U-673 was indeed a VIIC with bridge conversion.
see http://www.angelfire.com/co4/u_673/
If just could remember where i saw an article where was told that some forward platforms converted to stand above legs like U-673 to improve
diving speed. U-441 type forward decks increased diving speed too much. I wish i could find more pics of U-441, U-256, U-621 and U-953.
It might be interesting conversion in 1/72 VIIC.

U-Flak and VIIC/41 CT comparison...

-Anakin-

Greif · « **Reply #2 on:** 12 Nov , 2009, 10:15 »

Hi Anakin, if you have not done so already, have a look at Glann Cauley's build of U-673. You can find it by googling "Modelling U-673 "Flak Trap". He is doing some remarkable work.

Ernest

Anakin · « **Reply #3 on:** 12 Nov , 2009, 11:15 »

Yes, his blog is familiar to me! Really remarkable work if i may say...

I

NZSnowman · « **Reply #4 on:** 12 Nov , 2009, 11:48 »

Hi Anakin

I believe the FuMO box was on the port side and the panzerkerat was on the starboard side.

Simon

Greif · « **Reply #5 on:** 12 Nov , 2009, 13:22 »

Quote from: Anakin on 12 Nov , 2009, 11:15

Yes, his blog is familiar to me! Really remarkable work if i may say...

I

Anakin · « **Reply #6 on:** 13 Nov , 2009, 09:39 »

Quote from: Greif on 12 Nov , 2009, 13:22

Hi Anakin, Simon has it right. I built a late war uboot last year, U228. The pictures are still up in both the Type VII Section and the Gallery if you are interested.

Ernest

Thanks Ernest.

There are so little pics and info about U-441... So is it possible that there could be a panzergerat and FuMO on port side? I know the port side panzergerat was positioned
more further to the bow than stb side. And it was also for one person only. I looked your pics from the gallery and they will be a good reference for me and my (might be)
project...

I know that U-Flaks had some kind of ammo containers in the forward platform. U-673 had an ammo closet attached to CT. But i

NZSnowman · « **Reply #7 on:** 13 Nov , 2009, 10:11 »

Hi Anakin

I think it will be nearly impossible to have the FuMO on the starboard side of the boat as the whole control room may have to be invert also. The main drive shaft for the FuMO goes thought the pressure hull, into the control room and into the main diving tank.

Simon

The FuMO drive shaft

Here the real shaft in U-995

Quote from: Anakin on 13 Nov , 2009, 09:39

Thanks Ernest.

There are so little pics and info about U-441... So is it possible that there could be a panzergerat and FuMO on port side? ....

Anakin · « **Reply #8 on:** 13 Nov , 2009, 10:32 »

Hi Simon.

I guess i learn everyday something new here! And that

NZSnowman · « **Reply #9 on:** 13 Nov , 2009, 10:46 »

Other shaft you would had seen is for the DF aerial.

Sometime I wish I was a u-boot designer, then I would have a full set of plans

Simon

Anakin · « **Reply #10 on:** 13 Nov , 2009, 11:34 »

Yes i

NZSnowman · « **Reply #11 on:** 13 Nov , 2009, 11:54 »

I really hope that I will be able to visit the boat one day. I only live 18,160 km away

In fact, I do not think you could be any further away

Anakin · « **Reply #12 on:** 13 Nov , 2009, 12:17 »

Yeah i

Anakin · « **Reply #13 on:** 16 Nov , 2009, 11:01 »

This is getting way off topic but here it goes...

I really couldn

Rokket · « **Reply #14 on:** 16 Nov , 2009, 23:44 »

was the other eye closed?

Anakin · « **Reply #15 on:** 20 Nov , 2009, 09:27 »

Quote from: rokket on 16 Nov , 2009, 23:44

was the other eye closed?

Yes it was... By the time i visited Laboe the tower ( u-boats ct is closed always ) of the museum was closed because somekind of restoration. I might have to visit the museum again.

Anakin · « **Reply #16 on:** 31 Dec , 2009, 12:58 »

It is getting interesting... Since all 4 of U-flaks were VIIC boats and commissioned before aug 1942 except U-953 ( com.date 17 Dec 1942) first three of these had slotted deck. Only U-953 was
later built so she could have planked deck. So that could be the choise to build U-Flak from revells viic/41. But... The schnorchel pit and life raft containers in the deck...

Another choice is to try to fit the C/41 CT (modified) to earlier slotted deck...

Anakin · « **Reply #17 on:** 05 Jan , 2010, 14:55 »

Well it happened just as i thought! I couldn

Anakin · « **Reply #18 on:** 08 Jan , 2010, 11:00 »

Ok the deck isn

Rokket · « **Reply #19 on:** 08 Jan , 2010, 17:03 »

planking looks good

billp51d · « **Reply #20 on:** 09 Jan , 2010, 06:26 »

Anakin.. Nice looking deck..Are those styrene strips you're using for planking? If so, what size are they?
Bill

Greif · « **Reply #21 on:** 09 Jan , 2010, 11:39 »

Really nice job thus far Anakin. The planking looks terrific!

Ernest

Rokket · « **Reply #22 on:** 09 Jan , 2010, 16:04 »

Yes, good question Bill...premade or did you slice out? and if so, how with a clean edge and no curl (or counteract curl?)

Anakin · « **Reply #23 on:** 10 Jan , 2010, 10:32 »

Thanks guys!

And those strips.. Yes they are sliced with my own hands with a scalpel (surgeon knife) and with a roller blade. I

Rokket · « **Reply #24 on:** 10 Jan , 2010, 23:53 »

Thanks, I wondered what the magic was, I alwasy get curl and have never ban a fan of the poly liq, it either evaporates before you can contact, or blobs! But then I can't do stretched melted sprue either, and yet ahve seen some AMAZING parts made that way...

Jan · « **Reply #25 on:** 16 Jun , 2010, 03:01 »

Hi, while searching for Infos about U 256 - I

Anakin · « **Reply #26 on:** 05 Aug , 2010, 17:18 »

Sorry i have no more pics... I had a rough winter - spring so the project was delayed until better time!

But it

Anakin · « **Reply #27 on:** 04 Jun , 2011, 10:19 »

Last week i had the planking almost ready when i totally ruined it... Too much liquid poly and the result was a melt down! The lower platform literally melted down! I guess i didn

Rokket · « **Reply #28 on:** 08 Jun , 2011, 04:19 »

THAT is what I was talking about. But often I build a prototype and then the real one, so do not be discouraged, good practice!

Anakin · « **Reply #29 on:** 09 Jun , 2011, 10:07 »

I guess i have a prototype now...

Somehow i have to spare the original CT parts and remake the decks... BTW the evergreen sheet looks great... Small sanding perhaps and it looks like real wood planking.

Rokket · « **Reply #30 on:** 11 Jun , 2011, 01:47 »

excellent to know...send pix!

GlennCauley · « **Reply #31 on:** 03 Oct , 2011, 13:47 »

U-673 "Flak-trap" was finally completed:

(original site) http://www.travel-net.com/~gcauley/U673/
and
(continued posting as of August 2011) http://models.rokket.biz/index.php?topic=67.0

I really like the work on your U-flak

Anakin · « **Reply #32 on:** 08 Oct , 2011, 11:23 »

Quote from: GlennCauley on 03 Oct , 2011, 13:47

I really like the work on your U-flak

Thank you sir.

The Flak is in hold atm because my VIIB project and i also started 1/144 IIB with my son...

The next generation

Anakin

Rokket · « **Reply #33 on:** 11 Oct , 2011, 02:26 »

A worthy reason for Hold!

GlennCauley · « **Reply #34 on:** 08 Aug , 2012, 14:47 »

I have finally completed the build site for U-673... after long last!

http://www.travel-net.com/~gcauley/U673/

SG · « **Reply #35 on:** 09 Aug , 2012, 04:08 »

Most impressive, well done!

Rokket · « **Reply #36 on:** 10 Aug , 2012, 23:09 »

She loks great! Really well done. Love the 'scopes, very real. You must be mighty proud!