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SEA => SUBS: Uboats => TYPE VII => Topic started by: NZSnowman on 22 Jan , 2010, 22:01

Title: Type VII's
Post by: NZSnowman on 22 Jan , 2010, 22:01
I thought it was time to have a little poll. Plus I was wondering what version of Type VII are peoples favorite.

As must people know my this the VIIC/41 ;D however, the VIIC/43 could had been a great boat.
Title: Re: Type VII's
Post by: Rokket on 22 Jan , 2010, 22:30
Good idea!

I vote VIIC, because it's "classic" - not the experimental, but the start of the "meat", without extra guns and desperate measures. Of course it might be interesting to do a II / VII (general) / IX / XXI poll too...
Title: Re: Type VII's
Post by: NZSnowman on 22 Jan , 2010, 23:01
Good idea!

I vote VIIC, because it's "classic" - not the experimental, but the start of the "meat", without extra guns and desperate measures. Of course it might be interesting to do a II / VII (general) / IX / XXI poll too...

The VIIC was a very very close second for me, for the same reason it the 'classic'. "II / VII (general) / IX / XXI" next week poll  ;D
Title: Re: Type VII's
Post by: Mr. Bill on 23 Jan , 2010, 07:23
I like them all, but the VIIB's included many of the most successful boats.

Bill
Title: Re: Type VII's
Post by: Anakin on 23 Jan , 2010, 11:05
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Title: Re: Type VII's
Post by: dougie47 on 23 Jan , 2010, 11:10
Hi guys,

For me it is the VIIB, especially the early ones with the 20mm on the aft deck.

Cheers,

Dougie
Title: Re: Type VII's
Post by: NZSnowman on 23 Jan , 2010, 12:52
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Title: Re: Type VII's
Post by: JAORSA on 23 Jan , 2010, 15:34
Hello everyone!

I agree with Dougie, in fact, my first U-Boat is the U-47 (from Amati). I think that soon I could show the hard work to all you...

Cheers!!

Javier
Title: Re: Type VII's
Post by: Greif on 25 Jan , 2010, 01:58
I also went with the VIIc Simon, though I think the VIId is also pretty cool.

Ernest
Title: Re: Type VII's
Post by: Rokket on 25 Jan , 2010, 15:54
Certinly the others are funky, and if someone gave me (full size) any one of them, I wouldn't say no!
Title: Re: Type VII's
Post by: NZSnowman on 27 Jan , 2010, 20:33
if someone gave me (full size) any one of them, I wouldn't say no!

How would explain having a Type VIIC tied up at the yacht club to the Royal Australian Navy?  ;D ;D

Title: Re: Type VII's
Post by: Rokket on 29 Jan , 2010, 04:24
Hmmm..difficult, yes, but WORTH the trouble!

Ok, here goes, I'm spilling my guts...I want a few things because they are cool. Im' not talking about wanting them for myself, but "sharey" gifts.

Here's what I think would be cool:

A replica Titanic. NOT just for rich people, but offer cheap fares for 2nd and 3rd class. (Obviously have enough life boats). But a real Living history, bring it alive thing. I think it would be cool.

But I would also do a Graf Zepplin (Or Hindeneberg), and...

a VIIC. Think of the harbor cruises!

Just amazingly cool vehicles/vessels.

Anyone seen the Frank Sinatra 1960s movie Assault on a Queen?
Title: Re: Type VII's
Post by: dougie47 on 29 Jan , 2010, 12:45
Hi Wink,

As I've mentioned before I think your Titanic replica idea is fantastic. I'm guessing we can't release this as an AMP product?!! A full size replica of the Bismarck would be good too - just because the battleship looked so good. The Germans sure knew how to build aesthetic warships.

And since we are in dreamland here I would love to see a full scale flyable replica of a Shorts Stirling. Flugwerk have built new build Fw190s and Me262s so it is not impossible. Just extremely unlikely!

Cheers,

Dougie
Title: Re: Type VII's
Post by: NZSnowman on 29 Jan , 2010, 16:37
Was there not a plan a few years ago to build a replica Titanic for ship cruises, but I think it was stop because of money problem.

It would be great to see a full size replica of the Bismarck. 
Title: Re: Type VII's
Post by: Pat on 31 Jan , 2010, 15:49
I'm torn between the Type VII C's and VII C/41's.

The reason I like the C's is because they have the aft torpedo tube internal, and they have the Schiffkanone 88, which just seems stereotypical U-boat.

But I like the C/41's because by that time, they had the extra electronics for radar and radar detection, and they had the expanded Turmembaus 4's with the extra FlaK.  Just made them look meaner I guess.

That's why I'm doing U-711 because at the time period I'm doing, it had the larger tower but still retained the deck gun for shelling Russian radio stations.
Title: Re: Type VII's
Post by: Rokket on 01 Feb , 2010, 03:59
Pat, love to see a "personal" connection.

When I did my model I started out thinking I would do U 96. But then I thought about Memphis Belle, cool story and airship and crew, but what about the average guys?  I liked the idea of the regular ones.

It's the "WHY is that your fav color" thing the interests me! It's great you love 711.
Title: Re: Type VII's
Post by: Pat on 01 Feb , 2010, 06:34
Well rokket, I can give some more reasons why I like U-711 too.

It wasn't a very successful boat, so it didn't hurt too many of our side.  But it DID survive all of its missions.

It was sunk, more as collateral damage than an intentional attack, just before the last day of the war, by the RAF.  My father was an RAF pilot (why I built a lot of aircraft models but didn't settle on any one genre of model since my heart was really with the sea)although he was on "the Long March" from Stalag Luft III at the time. (I think it was the same day as his 7th (and final) escape.

All aboard U-711 at the time survived.

The captain of U-711 seemed to be a pretty decent sort, rejoined the Bundesmarine after the war and eventually rose to the rank of admiral.

I liked the camo pattern on U-711.  White is unusual (to my mind anyway) for a U-boat while the dark (black?) swirls are much like the sort of camo aircraft used (back to the RAF connection) and just sort of look nice.
Title: Re: Type VII's
Post by: Rokket on 01 Feb , 2010, 23:37
Pat, that is a huge list of awesome reasons for picking that boat, fantastic!

Your dad escaped not once but 7 times? Wow! He certainly had "sticktoitiveness"!

I did read about that captain, but never remembered his boat.

I agree about the pattern, another cool factor.

Thanks for sharing,it's exactly the kind of thing (well, of many) that attracts me to model building. (I originally wrote that as " atracts me to models" but I think we all know why we're attracted to pretty ladies)
Title: Re: Type VII's
Post by: Pat on 02 Feb , 2010, 16:38
I don't know the details of all of his escapes, but I think he must have been sort of like Steve McQueen in The Great Escape in that he probably spent half his time in the 'cooler' for escaping. 

The first one was after he'd parachuted out and evaded the soldiers who were hunting him.  He got to within a few km of the Swiss border but had to take refuge in a chalet from a blizzard, and when the storm lifted, the Wermacht were tracking him with dogs.  He was then taken to Gestapo interrogation in Frankfurt.

I think the 2nd or 3rd time was when the train he was on was attacked by allied aircraft and he managed to get out and into a field in Poland that was being worked by non-commissioned prisoners.  He tried to get a British sgt to trade uniforms but the sgt refused, as he thought that he had it pretty safe to sit out the war and lots of food since he worked the farm for the Germans.  so Dad was recaptured not more than a mile away from the train.

When he was captured after the 5th attempt, the kommandant threatened him with execution if he escaped again.  So the 6th time he found himself in front of a firing squad where they airmed, but never got the order to fire.  I had a photo of that.

The 7th time perhaps wasn't quite an escape, since on April 21, 1945 (this was after the Long March from Stalag Luft III), he was at Stalag XI B, and in the morning when he woke up, all the Germans were gone, they'd deserted the camp.  Dad went to the library and 'checked out' a book, "Mein Kampf" (it has a stamp of Hitler's autograph in it) with the camp number stamped in it and Dad dated it, that's how I know when and where.  He then had to cross the front lines of the Russians to get to the American side and freedom.  He got through and across the river and was repatriated the day U-711 was sunk.

I doubt if any of his escapes were big important ones, but the way Dad told it, the main idea was not necessarily to get home (Although that was a nice bonus if you did).  The big idea was that when you escaped, it took hundreds of soldiers to search for you, soldiers who might otherwise be at the front and able to helop their war effort.  So the longer you could stay on the run, the more it weakened the enemy.
Title: Re: Type VII's
Post by: Rokket on 02 Feb , 2010, 23:11
wow, powerful stuff...