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SEA => SUBS: Uboats => TYPE II => Topic started by: conus00 on 24 Jan , 2011, 15:30

Title: Another Type IIb from ICM (1/144)
Post by: conus00 on 24 Jan , 2011, 15:30

With my U-2360 finished and U-Hai diorama 99% done I have started a new project: ICM's Type IIB U-boat. This is not going to be a WIP build log, the kit is fairly simple, I'm just trying to super-detail it.
The kit is superior to ICM's Type XXIII and quite fun to build. The only major issue (so far) was fitting the deck to the hull.
Here are some pics of the progress so far (the CT is not glued on yet just dry-fitted)
(http://www.mediafire.com/imgbnc.php/1a6b744be2a479d8e3099e730c961f23cba14ab4453084402ddd4219c48887aa6g.jpg)
(http://www.mediafire.com/imgbnc.php/62f97107c03c5c88f3f211d90f518c8ec24148d0967827b1843ed0286bca32926g.jpg)
(http://www.mediafire.com/imgbnc.php/5f4d04322fc1e87d639b0139fe733905358bbfd599c4caf9117d63ab7be1d3556g.jpg)
(http://www.mediafire.com/imgbnc.php/196c47bcc28024acd9bfc8a94d4b6ea7e994f6876be78f7556c6b34aae0ca1ea6g.jpg)
(http://www.mediafire.com/imgbnc.php/42e30a2c12e7a4e8a4db59fc9e5cf4e9ddab18f18e87d54e150e4b39842885136g.jpg)
(http://www.mediafire.com/imgbnc.php/39d82f90d5146d999195853d31bb23db8be4b745f134d07d86695f5bbeee9bbb6g.jpg)
(http://www.mediafire.com/imgbnc.php/596e7c3e80a946c533a43cd86cb06ceacb4a18eb87b94a69ea3214316d1922c46g.jpg)
(http://www.mediafire.com/imgbnc.php/4ff9663490df035526fc2286c51ca0dd79c56bed58c1fb53e7b5d16271a9707c6g.jpg)
(http://www.mediafire.com/imgbnc.php/644bdc1f5495868bca80d469e825195c825fede39ec95afbb8efdf1626eeaf016g.jpg)

Title: Re: Another Type IIb from ICM (1/144)
Post by: Rokket on 26 Jan , 2011, 01:02

Nice detailing. What putty is that red stuff?

love the base too! - ;D

Title: Re: Another Type IIb from ICM (1/144)
Post by: Pepper-mint on 26 Jan , 2011, 04:12

Hi conus,

Quick and nice start  :o

What is the PE brand please ?

Title: Re: Another Type IIb from ICM (1/144)
Post by: TRM on 26 Jan , 2011, 05:06

Very nice start!  Looking forward to seeing your progress! ;D

Title: Re: Another Type IIb from ICM (1/144)
Post by: conus00 on 26 Jan , 2011, 08:53

Thank you, guys.
to answer your questions:
-the red "stuff" is 3M Bondo Professional Glazing & Spot Putty:
http://www.shop3m.com/70008003579.html
I have ran out of Squadron green putty and read somewhere on the forums about this one and gave it a try. It is IMO much better than green putty and much cheaper

-to my knowledge there is no PE for ICM's Type IIb (yet), the PE I used are leftovers from Eduard's Type VIID

Also the base is just my "working" base for the process of building models :D :D

Title: Re: Another Type IIb from ICM (1/144)
Post by: Greif on 26 Jan , 2011, 12:53

Very nice work so far conus.  :)

Ernest

Title: Re: Another Type IIb from ICM (1/144)
Post by: Rokket on 27 Jan , 2011, 03:11

I was just joking about the base! I have many similar, smeared with 80 million colours as I mix, etc.

The "bondo" car putty is AWESOME stuff by all reports, tho I have never used. Good to hear a first hand report. MY mate just used it to patch a drywall/gyprock wall before painting, filled a huge gap and dried solid within minutes. Thanks

Title: Re: Another Type IIb from ICM (1/144)
Post by: Pepper-mint on 28 Jan , 2011, 04:44

Thanks conus :)

Is that BONDO (sounds like a known U2 singer  ;D) not "melting" the PS ?

Following with interest your build log...

cheers,

Pepper

Title: Re: Another Type IIb from ICM (1/144)
Post by: conus00 on 28 Jan , 2011, 11:23

Quote from: Pepper-mint on 28 Jan , 2011, 04:44

Thanks conus :)

Is that BONDO (sounds like a known U2 singer  ;D) not "melting" the PS ?

Following with interest your build log...

cheers,

Pepper

The bondo is not melting the styrene at all! More I use it the more I like it over the green putty. It spreads better than green putty and it sands to absolutely smooth finish. With the green putty the surface sometimes seemed little "porese". This thing will sand so good that (even without using primer over it) after it is painted the surface looks like the original styrene. It's pretty amazing, I'm very impressed.

Title: Re: Another Type IIb from ICM (1/144)
Post by: conus00 on 28 Jan , 2011, 18:44

Quick update:
Almost done with the CT. As you can see I chose U-9 for this build.
The sail still needs more wash and some rust weathering but it is about 90% done...
(http://www.mediafire.com/imgbnc.php/3ff03eba8335af69602b8d3ef18ab2888c8d09be3645cb7017f6c09eb0e01f896g.jpg)
(http://www.mediafire.com/imgbnc.php/534fbb5e632a0fec5dd916a3fb85a0b4e6a5083996710d3d2d6532670ae68c786g.jpg)
(http://www.mediafire.com/imgbnc.php/c7df7f417d720164bed39d5a3d95d696a3f66879a5bc9cf2b0932634fa26e82a6g.jpg)
(http://www.mediafire.com/imgbnc.php/6104d9a98fb1db7ce215c9f4e3f32f759880b1614e9ff79940f711924763c9bd6g.jpg)

I'm trying to find out where my super-detailing limits are in 1/144 scale...  ;D
So just for size reference I included US quarter in this one.
It's a little misleading but if you put the quarter side-by-side it is just a little higher then the sail (without the scope).
For all of you non-US guys the US quarter is 24mm in diameter.
(http://www.mediafire.com/imgbnc.php/34fa8f3fb56e27b9edb5a49632874e3ed98e0f29db9741859a1cee7eea215f3c6g.jpg)

Title: Re: Another Type IIb from ICM (1/144)
Post by: FoxbaT on 29 Jan , 2011, 10:09

Wow... incredible....
Very well done  ;)





Karel

Title: Re: Another Type IIb from ICM (1/144)
Post by: conus00 on 02 Feb , 2011, 01:36

Thank you.
Just a quick update: painting and weathering. CT still not glued on, still have to paint the deck and add some washes and rust.
After that rescue buoy, 2cm flak, railings an rigging.
I'm getting there. :D
Also, I have removed the kit's periscope because I found one extra Schatton's one.
(http://www.mediafire.com/imgbnc.php/a960773f19b559968b1477fedfb19c68750156cc1e10691e3e7cd84d4e3cfc056g.jpg)
(http://www.mediafire.com/imgbnc.php/81d2bdc112f781c9f49d1e5412c99404bee5e744e83fdafe1f68aa91abe203f36g.jpg)
(http://www.mediafire.com/imgbnc.php/955fc80b393c96a0055e2de8a2eae538d43935df417ac2db8b155366e416875e6g.jpg)
(http://www.mediafire.com/imgbnc.php/4ad2d3cd94e1603e7c84cb6addc38889ae53cfc86aca96783ed0084fa48af41e6g.jpg)

Title: Re: Another Type IIb from ICM (1/144)
Post by: Rokket on 03 Feb , 2011, 03:30

getting close

Title: Re: Another Type IIb from ICM (1/144)
Post by: TRM on 03 Feb , 2011, 04:26

Looking Great !

Title: Re: Another Type IIb from ICM (1/144)
Post by: Greif on 06 Feb , 2011, 14:01

Beautiful work on the Conning Tower conus.  It looks very good.

Ernest

Title: Re: Another Type IIb from ICM (1/144)
Post by: conus00 on 08 Feb , 2011, 14:32

Thank you, gentlemen.
The boat is finished, here are few pictures:
(the rigging was definitely testing my patience :D)
(http://www.mediafire.com/imgbnc.php/0c67106c6f58b4c4643eaf6a2890975fd25fbef2c2ad49289b53360e52dd9a7a6g.jpg)
(http://www.mediafire.com/imgbnc.php/d50a26a205629f1a9a1f010c881a5e5d6345f8bd9c7f284d64121f20feb29b7b6g.jpg)
(http://www.mediafire.com/imgbnc.php/7607267da9f40552058d4989a5999b797ec472237dd2c2042967977336c06b5f6g.jpg)
(http://www.mediafire.com/imgbnc.php/1eb6cbd1f77bdf64c7fab7a5a38ea740bc776aa964c3807ea4c5019ed7bbdd446g.jpg)
(http://www.mediafire.com/imgbnc.php/4e4261fed9979a9988e8f24515b9620dc59182891764638668a28646abe9ed6c6g.jpg)
(http://www.mediafire.com/imgbnc.php/5e45694da2f0bf59074a5b1a95f3e6a263b7d076878e8f6bbee72bc18500c64b6g.jpg)

Next thing on my workbench is Revell's Type VIID with excellent Griffon PE (but the work will not start until I get back from vacation. Off to Bahamas in 48 hours! ;))

Title: Re: Another Type IIb from ICM (1/144)
Post by: Rokket on 09 Feb , 2011, 01:39

Really very nice, excellent paint/weathering, she looks quite sweet! bahams, don't get torpedoed!

Title: Re: Another Type IIb from ICM (1/144)
Post by: TRM on 09 Feb , 2011, 04:07

Great Job!  Congratulations! ;D

Title: Re: Another Type IIb from ICM (1/144)
Post by: Pepper-mint on 09 Feb , 2011, 10:49

Very nice conus !

And have a good vacation !  :)

cheers,
Pepper.

Title: Re: Another Type IIb from ICM (1/144)
Post by: bracco_n on 09 Feb , 2011, 10:56

Gorgeous little model, you tempted me to build it too! How long is it?

Title: Re: Another Type IIb from ICM (1/144)
Post by: conus00 on 09 Feb , 2011, 12:31

Thanks guys!
the model is pretty small: 11.5 inches (little bit over 29 cm).
It was painted with Humbrol enamels, weathering done with Citadel washes (designed originally for Wargamer figures, but I strongly recommend) and Tamiya Weathering set B.
The rigging is fishing line and the insulators painted blobs of superglue.

Overall, for $17 I've had a lot of fun with it. :D
It's a nice addition to my 1/144 collection of u-boats (the plan is to have all major types, with the exception of Type IX, which nobody makes yet...)

Title: Re: Another Type IIb from ICM (1/144)
Post by: Rokket on 12 Feb , 2011, 01:27

How was the fishing line to work with? Does it glue OK? I painted thread, which took care of any hairs that showed up on fairly hairless stuff, but it also seemed to give it strength against sagging. I'm guessing ca (superglue) bonds the fishing line OK?

Title: Re: Another Type IIb from ICM (1/144)
Post by: conus00 on 14 Feb , 2011, 18:39

You guess right, Wink. I used little globs of CA to glue the fishing line. The bonding is about 70/30 (maybe three out of ten glue spots I had to redo) but when the line "grabs" you can tug on it with fairly strong force to stretch it and the spot won't break. The only small problem I noticed is during painting: you have to get the consistency of the paint about right: not too runny, not too thick. The Humbrols (if you thin them too much) tend to "roll" on the surface of the fishing line and create small globs. If you get it right the paint adds almost nothing to the thickness of the line and looks pretty good as a result.

Title: Re: Another Type IIb from ICM (1/144)
Post by: Rokket on 15 Feb , 2011, 04:32

Thanks for the detailed info, Conus! Your end-result is most excellent! Well done! (I'm assuming you will be hoisting a Becks in celebration)

Title: Re: Another Type IIb from ICM (1/144)
Post by: Greif on 16 Feb , 2011, 23:56

Truely superb work conus a real work of art!  My compliments.

Ernest