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SEA => SUBS: Uboats => TYPE VII => Topic started by: Pepper-mint on 02 Apr , 2010, 07:24
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Hello Gents,
The U-307 was my first choice... Finally no.
This might sound a bit strange ; building a never launched u-boat. I've been thinking for a while, searching for a hull number, a story, but always with a kind of unsatisfaction ; The U-Boats history is written, some secrets are still to be found but only on existing entities. It's pragmatic without any "chance" of imagination...
What would have been the story of U-1299 ? All i know is that this code was never attibuted.
All the "Build in progress" U-1280 to 1297 coded were suspended and canceled between september 1943 and september 1944.
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Let's "change" history : i'm going to launch this U-Boot ! And maybe write it's (short) story.
The U-1299 Type VII/41 :
It was built in Bremen and launched in november 1943.
The last U-boot assigned to the 9th Flotilla in marsh 1944-Brest / front-boat
Success : 2 ships damaged and one Tribal class destroyer sunk, 2 B24 "Liberator" damaged.
Sunk by depth charges in february 1945 near Iceland. At this time wearing a pattern camo. of wavy bands. (like U-744, photo in Warship pictorial #27 p.48)
The boat embleme : pic below.
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I will build a typical VII/41.
Any opinions or suggestions are welcome... =)
Cheers,
Laurent.
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Hi Laurent
How about this, base on a real bombing raid on Bremen ;D
During the night of June 3/4, 1942 in the largest bombing raid since October 1941, 170 Royal Air Force Bomber attack Bremen. There was damage to the U-boat construction yards which set the launched of U-1299 back to November 1943.
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Laurent, that's an interesting idea, doing a model of a boat that was planned but never built.
I like it!
A couple of comments though.
I'm not sure, but I don't think the boats leaving Bremen much time around Iceland. That was more for the boats based in Norway since ti was closer. Doesn't mean it wasn't possible though.
Near the end of the war, emblems on the CT side were rarer. They got painted over during refits, and not renewed. Removed with new plating when the CT's were updated into later Turm versions. Or just done away with after schnorkels since the boats spent less time on the surface. Also, many emblems were specific to certain flotillas. There is a URL where you can look up the emblem of every U-boat that was ever launched if you're interested.
I may be wrong (and others like dougie, rokket, Snowman etc. might have better info than I), but I think the wavy patterns were more often seen in the more southern boats. Probably something to do with the light conditions, or the type of weather and wave combinations. Mediterranean boats often had a sort of blotchy pattern, almost like flowers, of a blue/grey or sometimes green/grey. Northern boats often had lighter grey colours (I think it's dougie who published something on the specific shades of grey used) and a few of them were even painted white, sometimes with disruptive camo, sometimes not. There's at least a couple of northern boats that were all white (sometimes with wind deflectors painted black), at least one I've come across with the casing grey but the CT white, and U-711, the one I'm doing, white but with 3 black wavy lines (one amidships and one equadistant between there and the bow/stern).
It's a good idea to do a boat that never existed, it's gives you a lot of latitude to do things that were charactaristic but doesn't peg you down to one specific boat. However, there were still things that were specific to certain areas and times that must be taken into consideration.
(I found out recently that the boat I'm building (because I liked the Turm 4 with a deck gun) might not have existed as such. While U-711 was one of the last to give up her deck gun, it was still before the CT was modified to Turm 4. But I'm too far along to go back now. and besides, it looks pretty cool with a deck gun in front of the Turm 4 variation.)
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I LIKE it! Having a reason, a "hook" for project is sooo necessary in my book, and this is quite interesting!
For paint and patterns, Dougie's article is the only thing i can say.
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Thank you ;D
Hi Laurent
How about this, base on a real bombing raid on Bremen ;D
During the night of June 3/4, 1942 in the largest bombing raid since October 1941, 170 Royal Air Force Bomber attack Bremen. There was damage to the U-boat construction yards which set the launched of U-1299 back to November 1943.
i'm 100% OK ! ;D
Pics from the bombing in link below...
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It's a good idea to do a boat that never existed, it's gives you a lot of latitude to do things that were charactaristic but doesn't peg you down to one specific boat. However, there were still things that were specific to certain areas and times that must be taken into consideration.
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Pat,
The swordfish was the 9th flotilla embleme but in blue with a red mouth (nothing relly sure about the colors). The 9th flotilla ended his life between august and october 1944 when the sub. docks in Brest were kaput. That's why U-1299 was assigned to the 11th flotilla in Bergen/NORWAY... But as you know, the sub. crews had the choice for the embleme. So they decided to keep the "swordfish". http://www.uboat.net/flotillas/bases/brest.htm
As for the Camo you are right, this pattern was commonly used in the Med. sea. But you can read page 25 from Dougie's excellent "Kriegsmarine U-boat colors and markings"...
@ Rokket : in fact i needed a "hook" before starting my U-boat, i was so frustrated not to find "THE" one...
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Hi Laurent, great idea! I will follow your build with much interest.
Ernest
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Hi all,
I am actually in the middle east for my job...
Will be back in France with U-1299, second week of may.
Kind regards,
Laurent
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the shipyard awaits your return I'm sure
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Hi,
The revell type VII/C41 model box -scale 1/72 is complet ; after-markets and stuff...
Moving from appartment is finish and done so i have more time.
But before assembling the U-1299, I will begin with a draft in scale 1/144/revell , L: 465mm. No aftermarkets, e few scratch B's and a "like brand new from the yard painting". This will give me a direct contact with the pics and text found on the net/books and of course the drawing/works/models of all typeVII fellows on this forum...
But i have the first question : i'm searching a pic from the anchor : when the u-Boat is inked (?) how's the chain glider looking ?
Second question : how's the chain lookinng ?
Thank you for any info or pics ;D
All your opinions and comments will be much appreciated :)
quick beginning, in the kitchen on the camping workbench :
the "hole" story...
(http://nsm04.casimages.com/img/2010/10/19//101019052330602176951989.jpg) (http://www.casimages.com)
TBC.
Laurent
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beautiful begining laurent !
I am going to look if I find something on the chain of the anchor and hawse pipes
amiti
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Hi Laurent
No pictures of the chain of the anchor or the hawse pipes :( I will keep a eye out for you.
Simon
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Very nice Laurent. Looking forward to your progress.
looking for Anchor pics as well....
Cheers!
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Hi Mates,
Thank you a lot ;)
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A little WIP...
evergreen or revell ?
(http://nsm04.casimages.com/img/2010/10/20//101020100235602176960171.jpg) (http://www.casimages.com)
evergreen S.rods / 0,5mm are a bit thik for the wintergarten in scale 1/144, but it will do for the 1/72 model.
TBC.
;)
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nice grab handles
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Thanks.
I think that once painted in grey, the white rods will appear thinner... Anyway it's a draft, now i know that
i can scratch build the wintergarten rails :
(http://nsm04.casimages.com/img/2010/10/22//101022054958602176969878.jpg) (http://www.casimages.com)
(http://nsm04.casimages.com/img/2010/10/22//101022054958602176969879.jpg) (http://www.casimages.com)
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The wintergarten looks great!
When I was working on U-1308 wintergarten, I looked at all the Turm 5 style to see what was common. The only thing I find that was common for all Turm 5 style was they were all different ;D E.g. How the were rail was attach to deck or bridge; the spacing; the overhead outline of the Turm 5; the netting; the space of the inter-small railing; the Aft Nav. light etc
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Beautifil work Pepper-mint.
It will be interesting if your prediction comes true about the appearance after the painting. Can't wait to see it.
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NZ - that's the thing about subs, "identical" ones are so different!
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That actually seems to apply to all sorts of boats. Painting aside, I've seldom if ever seen two of anything identical, except maybe some small craft like Lasers or runabouts.
Unlike a car, it takes so long to build a boat that what was in stock when the first keel was laid isn't when the next keel is laid, and during the production of several hulls, there are always changes in what sorts of hardware and fittings are available, or even changes in the plans itself as the first hull undergoes sea trials and they find that something can be improved upon.
My own came out of the water for the winter yesterday, and I was reminded of the changes in the colour of the propellor whether it's wet or dry. The bronze is brown when wet, but pale green with a brassy tinge when dry. The antifouling is almost exactly the same colour as a U-boat when dry but changed colour near the waterline where the algae took hold (until it was washed off).
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A little WIP...
evergreen or revell ?
Hi Pepper-mint
The Plastruct brand offers a much lower diameter that Evergreenn,the diameters go to the ,0.3mm,0.15mm,0.5mm,0.6mm,0.8mm,1.1mm it is the finest I know
it may be worth a try,if you want more information send me a PM
but, your work is very beautiful seen the scale
Nicolas
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Hello Gents,
Thanks for all the info, it confirm what i found. @ Le Bosco : merci l'ami !
While i was looking for wintergarten rail plans, i noticed that every "Turm 5" had her own "style" ; confirmed by the B/W photos i have. I built the one who seem to be the most "efficient" in my opinion.
In a way it fits perfectly to the building of U-1299 : i can collect the best technical results (but logical) that we can find on the VIIC/41's.
Question : Did a u-boat Kpt. had any influence on the technical evolutions for his boat ? After a long war patrol experience ?
I also searched (and found) pictures from up to 1939 anchors and housings, :o beautiful pics !!! They all seem to have the same "housing pipe" with a lip (like a chicken a**hole)... ;D :
(http://nsm04.casimages.com/img/2010/10/24//101024015826602176981784.jpg) (http://www.casimages.com)
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By the way :
For the U-1299 story, the Commander :
Klaus Von EISENHEIM
Born on 19 sep. 1911 in Frankfurt am Main.
Kapit
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I think that's probably the case for anchors Pepper. Unlike the other fittings that boats use (cleats, winches, bollards, etc) there are few different designs for anchors. Sailors are VERY particular about the anchors they use because their life may depend on how well it holds during a storm, and as a result, there's been a lot of testing over the centuries and only a very few designs were found acceptable.
Anchors are one of the few things on a boat/ship that I expect to seem almost the same on each one.
Almost all naval boats and ships use what's called a 'navy stockless anchor' which is very heavy but stows well without taking up much room. If you look, you;ll see the U-boat anchors are almost the same as the battleship anchors, just smaller. And the anchors on a British or American or even Japanese vessel should be nearly identical.
BTW, id you want to make your U-boat anchor more realistic, cut the shaft off and either make a new shaft yourself out of brass or plastic, or try to save what you can of the original. Hollow out the space in the base between the flukes so that the end of the shaft can fit into AND pivot back and forth, front to back.
Take a small brass wire, the size that you have a drill bit for, and drill sideways in the base from one fluke to the other, making sure that the drill passes through the hollow that you made in the base. If necessary, expand the hollow so that the drill passes through it with enough room to s so that there's a space all around the drill bit.
Then drill a hole through the end of the shaft so that the brass wire can fit through the base AND the end of the shaft when it's in the hollow.
Assemble the three parts together and now you have a navy stockless anchor that actually moves like the real one.
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Pat thank you for giving from your time and experience ! I'll do the anchor like you said.
My source : U-505 anchor > fits 100% with your building technique. ;)
(http://nsm04.casimages.com/img/2010/10/24//101024064027602176984253.jpg) (http://www.casimages.com)
and for more info :
An anchor where we can see the hole in the base.
(http://nsm04.casimages.com/img/2010/10/24//101024064535602176984266.jpg) (http://www.casimages.com)
:)
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Question : Did a u-boat Kpt. had any influence on the technical evolutions for his boat ? After a long war patrol experience ?
Laurent, as for the newer sensors like for FuMB (radar-detector) & FuMO (radar), from what I have read in books so far, the captain have little influence on the direction the technical evolutions on his boat. Like all U-boat captains they always wanted the newer sensors. However, there was always a shortage of these new sensors and it seen in the books I have read that it was
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Beautiful work on the Wintergarten. And an excellent job on the steps and railings.
Ernest
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Great work with the plastic rods. Would you mind doing a small tutorial on how you formed and installed the railing? Some would prefer to work in plastic than brass.
Thanks,
John Doherty
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Simon, what you say about the new tech for the U-boats makes sense, that it wouldn't be up to the captain but assigned to the boat, but that if he particularly wanted something, he could possibly get bumped up in the list if he had the right connections.
The only other thing I have to add to that is that I've read that just because OKW assigned some new tech to a boat, doesn't mean that the skipper had to use it. This was the case with many of the rader sets, that the U-boat skippers thought that the Allies were able to detect German radar wavelengths and could home in on the sets when in operation, and they didn't believe the high command when they said that the frequencies couldn't be detected by the Allies, so while the radar was installed, they didn't use it much.
Armament possibly could be installed as captain's choice, exactly as you said. Heck, the Allies did that too.
PT boats out in the Pacific often had all sort of non-standard armament, such as several bazookas strapped together on a MG base, aircraft machine gun systems mounted on the foredeck (they particularly liked the MG out of Aircobras since the planes were often written off), and at least one rocket launching system I know of. One of the most well known is that Kennedy's PT-109 had a 37mm anti-tank gun mounted on the foredeck, they just took the wheels off and bolted the base to the deck.
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Yes Pepper-mint, that's exactly the standard Navy Stockless Anchor, basically the same no matter what country.
And yes, that hole on the left side of the third picture, the one with the rusty anchor, is exaclty how I made the anchor for my U-boat functional, just a rod (or in the case of the model, a small wire) going through from side to side. In the real one, there's probably just a nut on each end of the rod to keep it in place.
One final comment, in your middle picture of the anchor from behind, note the "500x" in the base casting. That means that the anchor weighs 500 kilos, or 1/2 ton. Anchors are sized depending on the tonnage and length of the boat. A steel boat needs a bigger anchor than a fibreglass one for instance, and a longer boat needs a bigger anchor than a shorter one of the same weight.
The biggest of the 4 anchors on my boat is a 30 lb CQR type, which is the one I'd use in a storm. My "lunch hook" (used for short time anchoring on a calm day) is a 9 lb Danforth style.
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Very instructive and interesting descriptions.
Finally the Kpt. didn't have a real influence or involvement on the subs general patrol performances (radio/sonar/engine power/security arrangements on the deck) ; just on the deck gunnery, and with good "connections" the latest radio/detection devices/torpedos.
Pat, yes 500 kilos (pretty light...): I'm surprised, there is no picture showing a u-boat laying at anchor.
Was the anchor an emergency option ? If during a war patrol the sub had to stop or hide in a desert creek/... or outside a port, what was the procedure ?
@johnd : Thanks. You need very good cutting tools. A very quick glue, and a 20cm piece of 4mm diam. metal rod. with a smooth or heavy pressure (depending on what "curve" you'd like to shape) roll the thin plastic r. between the metal rod and your thumb. Install technique depends from your skills and experience. You have to build and learn. A lot of threads/posts in this great forum... ;D
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WIP :
I had to make a choice... Between the revell or a in brass home-made seerohr :
(http://nsm04.casimages.com/img/2010/10/28//101028100153602177011694.jpg) (http://www.casimages.com)
The turm is almost finished, the ladders, the 37mm and the stern rudders are build, the lost wave-deflector is replaced by a scratch built one and all the rigging anchors are in place.
I'm not going to over detail all this sub, this will be more funny on the 1/72 and i would like to finish this model ASAP.
Your comments are of course very welcome :)
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Pepper-mint,
Awesome! I like your brass version as well! Thanks for the match...forgot it was at 1/144!
Looking forward to you progress!
Cheers!
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If you can do that in 1/144 I'm pretty sure you'll do wonders in 1/72! Goof work!
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before first painting session :
Look at my junk and you'll know what i did.
(http://nsm04.casimages.com/img/2010/10/31//101031100809602177026372.jpg) (http://www.casimages.com)
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After first painting session :
(http://nsm04.casimages.com/img/2010/10/31//101031010734602177027539.jpg) (http://www.casimages.com)
(http://nsm04.casimages.com/img/2010/10/31//101031010734602177027542.jpg) (http://www.casimages.com)
(http://nsm04.casimages.com/img/2010/10/31//101031010734602177027540.jpg) (http://www.casimages.com)
(http://nsm04.casimages.com/img/2010/10/31//101031010734602177027541.jpg) (http://www.casimages.com)
(http://nsm04.casimages.com/img/2010/10/31//101031011943602177027608.jpg) (http://www.casimages.com)
A sanding work is necessary, the 2 flak zwillinge and the anchor are still on the workbench. Some details are oversized or missing but the main goal is reached. Next step : the pre-shadding, pattern painting, details painting and the display case.
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Great work So far!
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Exceptional work TRM!
Ernest
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Thank you Mates :)
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Peppermint, I really, really like the anti vibration rods on the periscope. Exceptionally well done!
Ernest
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reeally nice work
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Thanks ;) i'm having a lot of fun...
The camo... first phase.
(http://nsm04.casimages.com/img/2010/11/05//101105062705602177060795.jpg) (http://www.casimages.com)
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That looks really good!!!
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WOW! That is beautiful! I love camo scheme in u-boats... :)
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Hi,
the paintings should be dry ;D and the evergreen diameter is ok. The rendering is not that bad for a 1/144...
I would like to paint the wooden part from the deck. What kind of wood was used ?. A kind of Tamiya deck tan coloured wood ?
Maybe you have suggestions...
A brand new deck from the shipyard- and then a white light wash...
And thanks Gents for your comments =)
cheers, TBC
Pepper.
(http://nsm04.casimages.com/img/2010/11/17//101117055227602177135668.jpg) (http://www.casimages.com)
(http://nsm04.casimages.com/img/2010/11/17//101117055227602177135667.jpg) (http://www.casimages.com)
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Beautiful work Pepper! Very, very nice ;)
p.s: very good pics too..
Karel
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Excellent work Pepper! Love the camouflage. Not sure on what they would have used on the deck, possibly Teak??? if still in supply. Otherwise something something indigenous to the area at the time of construction maybe?
Cheers!
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Check out Dougie's U boot Colours article in the Wolf Pack collection in the AMP Library:
http://amp.rokket.biz/lib_uboats.shtml (http://amp.rokket.biz/lib_uboats.shtml)
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Of course... i will !!! I'm unforgivable ; great source.
Thanks Mates...
Karel, your u-boat building is a great source of inspiration and motivation, thank you for the kind words ;)
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Very well executed camo scheme Pepper-mint. Did you make your own templetes for it?
Ernest
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TRM, I think they would have loved to have had teak available to use on the deck, it's the best wood for marine decks as it resists rot and doesn't get slippery when wet like steel or most other kinds of wood do. I think early U-boat decks might have used teak but as the war went on and it became harder to import such woods, they resorted to using whatever sort of wood they could get, pine being the most common.
To waterproof and preserve the wood, and to give a bit more traction for walking, they coated it with a black creosote-like substance (I forget the name) similar to what you see on wooden railway ties.
Of course, where the deck gets worn from gunnery practice, watch positions and in an out of hatches, the black would get worn away down to the bare wood. Over a period of time, this wood would turn grey if the boat survived long enough, and might take on the look of black mildew for a really old training boat.
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Hi people,
Did you make your own templetes for it?
Yes i do.
Pat your description sounds right.
So the deck could have -after a couple of weeks...- this color (the dark grey parts) ? :
(http://nsm05.casimages.com/img/2010/11/21//101121075600602177162793.png) (http://www.casimages.com)
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Pepper-mint, not sure how long it would take in salt water to turn the wood grey. I'm more familiar with fresh water and it takes anywhere from a couple of months to several years, depending on the type of wood and how often it gets wet.
Salt water might speed up the process or it might slow it down, I don't know. And then you have the residual stain from the creosote-like preservative too, which would probably make it go grey faster.
Also, pine would turn grey faster than teak. And oak actually turns very black very quickly.
It's all relative.
My best guess would be that a pine deck would turn grey fairly quickly in worn spots, say a couple of months, but fresh wear would look light tan or whitish (the colour of bare pine), especially at the edges where it would wear quicker than in the center of a plank.
Keep an eye out for when you're travelling, and look at the fences in people's back yards, or at their decks. Notice how decks and verandas wear if they've been painted. Wooden buildings give you a lot of ideas, either bare wood like sheds (lighter near the top of a wall, darker near the bottom) and plank on frame houses show you how planks wear at the edges. It's all a matter of observation. (ok, I just finished watching Sherlock Holmes, but the same idea applies).
I sometimes test these things out by intentionally leaving a bit of wood outside and watching how it ages, or leaving a penny in tin full of water, sometimes salt, sometimes fresh, and watching tyhe colour changes. Looking at bronze statues (even buffing up a toe or something and then coming back in a few weeks to see how it's aged.)
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Hi,
No more modelling for a while...
The Russian/Chinese and german shipyards are closing, political crisis, unsatisfaction from the builders.
Also the Horten research Lab. Is closing, frustration from the designing team due to a lack of donations.
Wish you all the best.
Cheers,
Pepper-mint.
PS.: my new profile pic is the new U-1299 and personal insigna...
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What happened mate?
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Hi bracco,
Need a break and pure modeling : lonesome big boys style, in secret... ;)
I will stay tuned for research, the other wonderful part from modeling.
Thanks for asking mate.
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keep in touch mate, drop by to share your research and just say Hi
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Hi PPM
you did a great job on your U 1299,especially for the scale !!
regards
Nicolas
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Thanks Le BOSCO !
Ca fait plaisir...
;)
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Hope to see you back soon Peppermint! I know how it is when one needs a break from the bench. Enjoy your rest!
Ernest
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Hope to see you back soon Peppermint! I know how it is when one needs a break from the bench. Enjoy your rest!
Ernest
Thanks mate ! i'll stay around for good conversations...
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Hi,
A little WIP on the 1/144 "U-1299" ; slowly...
I removed all the cables/riggings and the 37mm AA, the paint on the hull is finished (ready for weathering, maybe).
Next step : painting the wooden bridge, and the Turm/CTower details + the riggings + the anchor and the display box.
(http://nsm05.casimages.com/img/2011/01/14//110114072656602177469396.jpg) (http://www.casimages.com)
(http://nsm05.casimages.com/img/2011/01/14//110114072657602177469398.jpg) (http://www.casimages.com)
(http://nsm05.casimages.com/img/2011/01/14//110114072656602177469397.jpg) (http://www.casimages.com)
(http://nsm05.casimages.com/img/2011/01/14//110114072718602177469400.jpg) (http://www.casimages.com)
Cheers,
Pepper-M
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lovely detail! tiny!
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Superb work Pepper. The camo job is awesome.
Ernest
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Looking great Pepper.
Just to be sure, since computers don't always show each colour the same, what are the colours on your camo job? On my monitor it looks like an Arctic white and some shade of olive.
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Pat, it's a dark green, but yes on the white it turned shade olive.
On the 1/72 scale the colors and the camo sheme will be the same.
Cheers,
Pepper-M
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Thanks for the confirmation Pepper.
I like the look of it anyway.
I've been thinking about painting my U-711 white, with the slate or black camo swirls that show up in several pictures I have of her. The swirls are either dark, dark grey or black, no question. But in the B&W photos, it's hard to tell if the hull and CT are white or the typical U-boat Waffe light grey. Originally a friend had told me that no U-boats were white but I've since found (and confirmed from the people here) that many of the northern boats did have white topsides.
It does look right on your boat, and it gives the ability to emphasize the rivets and the smoke discolouration at the exhaust that might not show as well with a grey hull.
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You're welcome Pat.
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Hi,
Step 1 from the deck painting. A tiny progress... but it positively changes the sub's personality ;D Still a lot to do !
(http://nsm05.casimages.com/img/2011/02/19//110219035123602177675822.jpg) (http://www.casimages.com)
TBC...
Pepper.
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Yet another nice progress report! ;D Deck is looking great!
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Hi,
Quick weathering on the deck...
(http://nsm05.casimages.com/img/2011/02/21//110221124706602177687763.jpg) (http://www.casimages.com)
(http://nsm05.casimages.com/img/2011/02/21//110221124704602177687759.jpg) (http://www.casimages.com)
(http://nsm05.casimages.com/img/2011/02/21//110221124705602177687760.jpg) (http://www.casimages.com)
(http://nsm05.casimages.com/img/2011/02/21//110221124706602177687761.jpg) (http://www.casimages.com)
Cheers
Pepper
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Pepper, deck is looking good!
Karel
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Hi laurent,
That's one good looking VIIC/41. Weathering on the deck is really great.
Cheers,
Dougie
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Thank you Mates,
In stand by again...
Will be back soon.
Cheers,
Pepper.
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awaiting your return to port
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Hello Gents,
Digging out that old post once again.
I saw in a post that there are in the aftermarkets market flexible wires for the rigging. I don't find that post anymore...
Question : can you guys pls tell me what brand it was and where i can order it from ?
Thank you People :)
Pepper.
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Uff,..this small Boat and so much details?....wonderful work!! :)
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Thank you Roland !!! ;)
I found -Lycra rigging- stuff : https://www.whiteensignmodels.com/product-search/Lycra+rigging/1/
And that "was" in the topic : Aftermarket list for 1/72 U-boot ? but the link isn't working...
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have you sued the Lycra? I tested EZLine, stretchy rubbery stuff, very nice and glues well with CA/superglue. I found cotton hairless thread (very hard to find even in fabric shops) was excellent, and I painted it (ran a paint-soaked cloth over thread, messy but effective).
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Received the lycra threads from WhiteE. It's really thin !
Will give a try soon...
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keep us posted, would love to see results