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« Reply #45 on: 17 Nov , 2010, 17:29 »
Excellent work Pepper!  Love the camouflage.  Not sure on what they would have used on the deck, possibly Teak??? if still in supply.  Otherwise something something indigenous to the area at the time of construction maybe?

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« Reply #46 on: 18 Nov , 2010, 02:18 »
Check out Dougie's U boot Colours article in the Wolf Pack collection in the AMP Library:

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« Reply #47 on: 19 Nov , 2010, 01:32 »
Of course... i will !!! I'm unforgivable ; great source.

Thanks Mates...
Karel, your u-boat building is a great source of inspiration and motivation, thank you for the kind words  ;)
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« Reply #48 on: 19 Nov , 2010, 10:33 »
Very well executed camo scheme Pepper-mint.  Did you make your own templetes for it?

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« Reply #49 on: 19 Nov , 2010, 21:13 »
TRM, I think they would have loved to have had teak available to use on the deck, it's the best wood for marine decks as it resists rot and doesn't get slippery when wet like steel or most other kinds of wood do.  I think early U-boat decks might have used teak but as the war went on and it became harder to import such woods, they resorted to using whatever sort of wood they could get, pine being the most common.

To waterproof and preserve the wood, and to give a bit more traction for walking, they coated it with a black creosote-like substance (I forget the name) similar to what you see on wooden railway ties.

Of course, where the deck gets worn from gunnery practice, watch positions and in an out of hatches, the black would get worn away down to the bare wood.  Over a period of time, this wood would turn grey if the boat survived long enough, and might take on the look of black mildew for a really old training boat.


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« Reply #50 on: 21 Nov , 2010, 12:03 »
Hi people,

Did you make your own templetes for it?
Yes i do.

Pat your description sounds right.
So the deck could have -after a couple of weeks...- this color (the dark grey parts) ? :
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« Reply #51 on: 21 Nov , 2010, 21:15 »
Pepper-mint, not sure how long it would take in salt water to turn the wood grey.  I'm more familiar with fresh water and it takes anywhere from a couple of months to several years, depending on the type of wood and how often it gets wet.

Salt water might speed up the process or it might slow it down, I don't know.   And then you have the residual stain from the creosote-like preservative too, which would probably make it go grey faster.

Also, pine would turn grey faster than teak.  And oak actually turns very black very quickly.

It's all relative.

My best guess would be that a pine deck would turn grey fairly quickly in worn spots, say a couple of months, but fresh wear would look light tan or whitish (the colour of bare pine), especially at the edges where it would wear quicker than in the center of a plank.

Keep an eye out for when you're travelling, and look at the fences in people's back yards, or at their decks.  Notice how decks and verandas wear if they've been painted.  Wooden buildings give you a lot of ideas, either bare wood like sheds (lighter near the top of a wall, darker near the bottom) and plank on frame houses show you how planks wear at the edges.  It's all a matter of observation.  (ok, I just finished watching Sherlock Holmes, but the same idea applies). 

I sometimes test these things out by intentionally leaving a bit of wood outside and watching how it ages, or leaving a penny in tin full of water, sometimes salt, sometimes fresh, and watching tyhe colour changes.  Looking at bronze statues (even buffing up a toe or something and then coming back in a few weeks to see how it's aged.)

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« Reply #52 on: 02 Dec , 2010, 18:17 »
Hi,

No more modelling  for a while...

The Russian/Chinese and german shipyards are closing, political crisis, unsatisfaction from the builders.
Also the Horten research Lab. Is closing, frustration from the designing team due to a lack of donations.

Wish you all the best.

Cheers,
Pepper-mint.

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« Reply #53 on: 02 Dec , 2010, 18:51 »
What happened mate?

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« Reply #54 on: 03 Dec , 2010, 08:46 »
Hi bracco,

Need a break and pure modeling : lonesome big boys style, in secret... ;)

I will stay tuned for research, the other wonderful part from modeling.

Thanks for asking mate.

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« Reply #55 on: 04 Dec , 2010, 00:57 »
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« Reply #56 on: 04 Dec , 2010, 12:29 »
Hi PPM

you did a great job on your U 1299,especially for the scale !!
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« Reply #57 on: 06 Dec , 2010, 07:32 »
Thanks Le BOSCO !

Ca fait plaisir...
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« Reply #58 on: 12 Dec , 2010, 10:36 »
Hope to see you back soon Peppermint!  I know how it is when one needs a break from the bench.  Enjoy your rest!

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« Reply #59 on: 14 Dec , 2010, 06:21 »
Hope to see you back soon Peppermint!  I know how it is when one needs a break from the bench.  Enjoy your rest!

Ernest

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