Author Topic: USS Barb SS-220 Revell 1/72 (Read 52981 times)

Sniperonzolo · « **on:** 29 Dec , 2009, 10:08 »

Finally here i am, i'm an italian modeller and hope to be able to share my passion with all of you.

I've been luky to found this forum years ago when i was at work on my u-boot. Rokket gave me lots of tips and now that i'm at work on my gato i've decided to share my work with you.
I've decided to build USS Barb SS-220... before 1945 refitt witout 40mm and so on...
there is a italian forum where use to post my pics ...but hope to be able to do the same here (in english....arggggh)
the link is: http://www.betasom.it/forum/index.php?showtopic=31843 here u can find different uboats and some nice work.

here are some pics of my work in progress.
first my first gato.... it was the eraly one...

and these the work in progress:

Sniperonzolo · « **Reply #1 on:** 29 Dec , 2009, 10:16 »

Es my english is terrible at first i'll put some pics .

Siara · « **Reply #2 on:** 29 Dec , 2009, 15:31 »

Was that your Gato? We always admired your work, so it is the pleasure to have you here on AMP.
I like your work much, and can not wait for more updates.

Sniperonzolo · « **Reply #3 on:** 29 Dec , 2009, 16:22 »

Thanks!
Yes it is. Fast work without any modification...and loong time for airbrush!
Now i'm going to keep all my attention to realize a realistik Barb...but as you can see
too many problems...
too many questions:
-first question: is there any good producers of 20mm orelikon twin/single - metal and resin?

ghgh i've seen some in nautilus resin made and j.r. haydes metal....

ok thats all i'm leaving to sydney to get some rest before return in italy.

ceers to all captains

Rokket · « **Reply #4 on:** 30 Dec , 2009, 23:55 »

Alessio, so good to hear from you again! Superb passion and detailing, the pix are a treat!

guns: I don't know what White Ensign models are offering, they have some kits: www.whiteensignmodels.com

Keep us posted and we'll see what we can do to help!

NZSnowman · « **Reply #5 on:** 31 Dec , 2009, 01:14 »

Welcome to AMP

The Gato looks wonderful!!!

Sniperonzolo · « **Reply #6 on:** 17 Jan , 2010, 14:04 »

finally i've some days to work on USS BARB.
I've a little question regarding lateral light...i really don't know if this light had upper and bottom space closed or not...
please get a look to the photos here:)
thanks

Sniperonzolo · « **Reply #7 on:** 08 Feb , 2010, 15:32 »

nothing to say... too much work in real and no time for fun and my gato...

Rokket · « **Reply #8 on:** 09 Feb , 2010, 03:58 »

oh, but that last shot is sooo nice!

As for the light, I can't say for certain, but I'm pretty sure it's the same for wveryone - show as little as possible. I bet that bottom, top, and front were closed, light only from the rear/side.

Sniperonzolo · « **Reply #9 on:** 12 Apr , 2010, 11:27 »

little news from italy

TGarthConnelly · « **Reply #10 on:** 12 Apr , 2010, 14:12 »

Sir!

That's one gorgeous model!

Nice work!

Garth

Rokket · « **Reply #11 on:** 13 Apr , 2010, 02:37 »

absolutely gorgeous! Still no definitive on the light, but will keep looking

wildspear · « **Reply #12 on:** 13 Apr , 2010, 15:37 »

I'll check the photos I took of the silversides and see if I have some of the light.

Sniperonzolo · « **Reply #13 on:** 14 Apr , 2010, 05:44 »

I've 4 photos of SS-220 Barb.... all of them says to me rear light is closed (but i am sure 100% only for barb)
my question is...
-upper and bottom light

sure tey has to present some holes to leave water and airbubbles free flow....
-form where they have maintenance to light? upper bottom lateral??

Sniperonzolo · « **Reply #14 on:** 11 May , 2010, 11:33 »

Ok thanks to Miuke Keating i had some Barb Photos...and finally i've found some answers...
lateral light. upper closed down open or partial open!
still some

on TBT back cigarette, no idea... Miuke gave me some contacts i hope to get in touch soon...
btw thanks to all of you... it's nice to get support!!!

next step is to remove front PE and create a different one..a my italian mate is going to
make it...

have a nice evening
Sniper

Rokket · « **Reply #15 on:** 14 May , 2010, 03:24 »

glad to hear, Sniper, please keep us informed, we'd love to know the info too, and love your build!

Sniperonzolo · « **Reply #16 on:** 19 May , 2010, 06:02 »

step by step...

slow

little improvments

Seewolf · « **Reply #17 on:** 20 May , 2010, 17:58 »

stunning work

absulute realistic paintwork, when you come to the paint work please please please take pics, from every little step

Rokket · « **Reply #18 on:** 21 May , 2010, 03:16 »

LOVE the wiring and hangars, and it all! Really nice stuff

Sniperonzolo · « **Reply #19 on:** 16 Jun , 2010, 15:38 »

Hard times

Work in slow progress... i've just discovered some pics about EB GATO sonar...unfortunatelly i had already ended it...so there will be some work on it ......

how it should be....

BARD sail is in progress too... added railings (?)

ciao

Siara · « **Reply #20 on:** 16 Jun , 2010, 16:24 »

I really like this build.
Following it closely.

Rokket · « **Reply #21 on:** 17 Jun , 2010, 02:39 »

yes, excellent work, you're doing her proud!

Sniperonzolo · « **Reply #22 on:** 17 Jun , 2010, 05:13 »

Here the modified sonar

Ciao

Rokket · « **Reply #23 on:** 18 Jun , 2010, 05:39 »

nice display - opposite to mine: VIIC above, Gato below (well, planned Gato below, it's just pieces now)

NZSnowman · « **Reply #24 on:** 18 Jun , 2010, 13:46 »

When you see the Gato and the Type VIIC together, you really get a good feel of the size of the Gato compare to the Type VIIC

Sniperonzolo · « **Reply #25 on:** 18 Jun , 2010, 14:59 »

HEHE

it's simply the only place where my domestic help doesn't make disaster....and ... listen to me ... she is addicted to!!!!

i'd like to build 2 more type VII (one VIIDminelayer hull already assembled.....and early VIIC u-404 with its' viking dragon head
with front netcutter)

ciaao

Sniperonzolo · « **Reply #26 on:** 22 Jun , 2010, 12:47 »

New ADD

carr · « **Reply #27 on:** 23 Jun , 2010, 12:59 »

This is excellent work! I'm very much enjoying it and looking forward to more.

You show Barb with two circular lockers on the port and starboard forward face of the fairwater structure, below the 40 mm gun. I've been unable to find any pictures of Barb that show this arrangement. Many later war photos show the starboard one but not the port. I have a photo dated as late as 7-May-45 that clearly shows only the starboard one. I noticed you have a photo in this post which shows the twin locker arrangement. Is this a photo of Barb and, if so, do you know the date?

Regardless, keep up the good work! Thanks for sharing your work with us.

Regards,
Bob

Sniperonzolo · « **Reply #28 on:** 23 Jun , 2010, 15:08 »

You are rigth Bob!

There is only one locker! ... It's a problem of lazyness... i'll cut it soon

I'm waiting to get hands on frontal Modified cygarette deck PE ...The Eduard PE doesn't fitt
SS220 before 1945.... and revell has not the right one too...
There are several errors too yet...
-buoy... front and rear are different in real BARB (i'll do no change on revell model)
even because Eduard PE Gato class floor plates has the same errors...
-near deck cannon... there were 2 small tender sotred under deck and revell and Eduard lateral profile (atm) are wrong...
-Gato Revell deck is too simply!!! no hatchess... ? (i'll cut all ...just giving a look at the photos)
-EDUARD PE Gato class fuselage hinges plate missed some squared holes... too
-i'm quite sure that Barb before 1945 refit had not propeller guard too (i like with)

SIGH there is soo much work to do on it

CIAO

Rokket · « **Reply #29 on:** 25 Jun , 2010, 19:02 »

The Eduard deck is ecellent, but POST-war, with the totally wrong buoys unfortunately. But it should be possible for a man with your skills to make the circular bouy and blend the deck plates!

Hi Bob, welcome aboard

Sniperonzolo · « **Reply #30 on:** 27 Jun , 2010, 05:06 »

noooo.... no pe changement
no buoy:)

it means too many works and now gato is quite nera christening:)

Rokket · « **Reply #31 on:** 03 Jul , 2010, 02:06 »

you can do it man!

Sniperonzolo · « **Reply #32 on:** 11 Jul , 2010, 11:03 »

Dockyard improovments:

aptivaboy · « **Reply #33 on:** 11 Jul , 2010, 11:45 »

I really love this build!

Are those draft marks homemade or PE from the Eduard set? They look great on Barb's stern. I've got to remember to do something like that when I get back to my stalled Hardhead build. It also looks like you've done at least some of the piping underneath the deck, like the diesel exhausts. May I ask what plans you used for that? Its a really neat addition.

Not meant as a criticism of your superb work, just a question, but didn't Barb have the full length wooden deck?

Robert

Sniperonzolo · « **Reply #34 on:** 11 Jul , 2010, 16:34 »

Thanks Aptivaboy

Marks are form EDUARD PE...
General piping underneath the deck comes form a better look at some photos... EB gatos...
for diesel exaust i am not sure... but looking at some photos u can see diesel and water purge form the same place

sigh i hate u!!!! deeeeply i've seen some pics about full lenght wooden deck... hem...chof chof... you are right!
humm.... hard decision... i don't konw... to do or not to do!!!

ciaaaao

Rokket · « **Reply #35 on:** 12 Jul , 2010, 08:38 »

DO IT! DO IT! (you can you know, the Force is strong in you..)

Sniperonzolo · « **Reply #36 on:** 12 Jul , 2010, 15:03 »

Nope!!! i don't.... too much work...
too many problems...

BTW.... some new thing going on the Barb!!!
I finally found time and willpower to do the firset big work...
EDUARD PE cut off from front cigarette deck...
then scan the old pe and prepare it for one firend of mine
who will make soon one new...

Have a good night captains!

Rokket · « **Reply #37 on:** 13 Jul , 2010, 02:45 »

excellent work!

Sniperonzolo · « **Reply #38 on:** 15 Jul , 2010, 17:00 »

loocking back to first steps...

the sail eraly work... just eduard pe and squared roof....

and here it is now

well this is the first barb... u can see all the difference and work done to the second one

have a goodnight

Rokket · « **Reply #39 on:** 16 Jul , 2010, 03:13 »

wow, well worth the effort - at least on this end! Really nice work

Mike K · « **Reply #40 on:** 16 Jul , 2010, 16:19 »

Gene Flucky would have loved it.

Mike K.

Sniperonzolo · « **Reply #41 on:** 16 Aug , 2010, 15:32 »

Dockyard still working at.

I've found time for cut and make some hatch on the gato's deck... i've made a big mistake on the two big boat compartment... unfortunately it was late and
i've made them shorter than real...(hahah i'll never post a pic about it ghgh)
the really nice ting is the lateral navigation lights... seems quite real

i'm quite sure to be near the end... finally hope this week then i've to wait and wait till new pe build...

bracco_n · « **Reply #42 on:** 16 Aug , 2010, 18:24 »

Could you show us your Type VII uboats on the uboat forum? magnificent Gato by the way!

Sniperonzolo · « **Reply #43 on:** 17 Aug , 2010, 10:40 »

thanks---witch one VIIC or the VII c-41? last one wiating for color! i have also a VIID but just some steps:)...btw there are some pics here... or u can see it on
this links

VIIc U-552
http://www.betasom.it/forum/index.php?showtopic=28250

VII c41 U-453
http://www.betasom.it/forum/index.php?showtopic=28217&st=0

chipper · « **Reply #44 on:** 18 Aug , 2010, 05:21 »

Beautiful work!! Could you explain your techniques and materials used for the fairweather railings? They look great.

Sniperonzolo · « **Reply #45 on:** 25 Aug , 2010, 18:57 »

hello!

i'm sorry to be late but i've been very busy with my trimix course in this week...
hum are u speaking about fairwaters on the sail?
they are n

Pepper-mint · « **Reply #46 on:** 13 Sep , 2010, 23:21 »

Yes, beautyfull work ! following with great interest.

Cheers,
P.

Sniperonzolo · « **Reply #47 on:** 28 Sep , 2010, 11:25 »

I know i know
all stopped... i'm waiting for pe for the front sail... hope to have news soon:)

sniper

Rokket · « **Reply #48 on:** 30 Sep , 2010, 06:05 »

we're waiting with you!

Sniperonzolo · « **Reply #49 on:** 15 Feb , 2012, 11:23 »

GATO YARD IS BACK
I'm luky and probably i'll get finally the PE of the front sail.
Btw waiting for it's production i have a question about Electornic Boat Yard and Portsmouth Yard... and it concern in the differences between the two yards... well wellis theese holes the same in both project? can i take the position from USS PAMPANITO the only one where i am sure i have good pict about them? (warship pictorial n

Sniperonzolo · « **Reply #50 on:** 17 Feb , 2012, 04:43 »

Morning captains

This is what i am going to do on SS220 BARB GATO FLEET SUBMARINE

-Remove propellers guard and replace with WHITE ENSIGN.
https://www.whiteensignmodels.com/p/WEM+172+Gato+Class+Stern+Details+Prop+Guards+PE+7242/5443/
-Remove Revell torpedo shutter and Replace with AMP one .
http://amp.rokket.biz/am_1_72_gato_sets.shtml#usn-torsht-s-072

-Have to choose 20mm twin and single... between:
NAUTILUS 2x.
http://nautilusmodels.com/72-054.htm
http://nautilusmodels.com/72-059.htm

WHITE ENSIGN 2x.
https://www.whiteensignmodels.com/p/WEM+172+USN+20mm+Single+Oerlikon+PE+7234/5434/

-Set up new radar and antennas :
WHITE ENISIGn give me late SD antenna and early SJ as far as eduard make only LATE SJ (not fitted ultill 1944).
https://www.whiteensignmodels.com/p/WEM+172+Gato+Class+Radars+Antennae+PE+7241/5442/

-Have to wait till the front sail PE is finished and the i'll start to gue it...probably i'll make also the little oval acess to the masts...have to ask if it is possible to
make pe too.

-US AMP falgs.

Please i don't know the roules of this forum please tell me if i can link direct acess to white ensigh, eduard and nautilus.

Ceers

Rokket · « **Reply #51 on:** 17 Feb , 2012, 17:28 »

G'day, mate. Link away!

I'm still looking at the manholes above (they're ballast tank access). I don't know what Mike has n plans, or if I have anything. With Gatos, it's a 50/50% chance that they are the same...or not!

Sniperonzolo · « **Reply #52 on:** 23 Feb , 2012, 11:48 »

Evening Capitains

These are some pics of first step: GUARD PROPELLER REMOVE
- remove
- sand
- putty

next fase:

- accurate sand
- set up some new welding lines
- decide to buy AMP sternd doors... (ANGEL)

have a good evening

Rokket · « **Reply #53 on:** 25 Feb , 2012, 15:46 »

Nice to get rid of that prop guard. I'm hoping to build one of those angle-iron temporary ones held on with cable and turnbuckles...but towards the end of the project. Some good shots in warships 28. Can't find any decent pix of those manhole covers, so can't answer if different to EB and Portsmouth. Still looking. Mike K might have some plans.

Sniperonzolo · « **Reply #54 on:** 27 Feb , 2012, 13:59 »

Good evening Captains.

Here some work on stern of my Barb:
-welding ->i use some putty to get welding lines
-holes ->with printer on a transparent film and then punched.

Mike K · « **Reply #55 on:** 28 Feb , 2012, 11:22 »

I've been unable to find any, readable, drawings showing the tank access covers, or which tanks had them.
Logically, only hard tanks, that extended above the waterline, would have them, Never ballast (soft) tanks. That would include After Trim Tank, Auxiliary Tanks, 1 & 2, Safety Tank, Collecting and Expansion Tanks. Probably Normal Fuel and Fuel-Ballast tanks.
I'm sorry I can't be of more help, good luck

Mike

Sniperonzolo · « **Reply #56 on:** 28 Feb , 2012, 17:01 »

gato yard

thanks Mike i've really apreciated

here it is my upgrade of guard propeller

Mike K · « **Reply #57 on:** 29 Feb , 2012, 12:09 »

That prop guard looks good. And, for what it's worth, a WWII buddy remembers his boat using them. He says there were 16 bolts, used in pairs, to attach it. But he can't seem to remember, exactly, where the attachment points were.
That's the problem with getting old, you remember just enough to add to the confusion.

Mike K.

Sniperonzolo · « **Reply #58 on:** 29 Feb , 2012, 13:31 »

GATO YARD:

Mike i have to thank you so much! u are precious! please mike could you ask if those bolts were for assembling prop guard or if they were used 4 fixing it to the gato? and could u ask to your fiernd how was the prop guard under sea ? "the part i am not able to see in the pics?"

and how prp guard looks for this evening

have a good evening

Rokket · « **Reply #59 on:** 02 Mar , 2012, 17:50 »

That's exactly what I was talking about! Nicely done!

I'm fairly certain from the pix that there's just steel cable run under the boat and attached with turnbuckles.

Sniperonzolo · « **Reply #60 on:** 22 May , 2013, 11:47 »

Goodevening Captains.

After a long long time i'm here with good news... will be able to work on Barb soon, thanks to a good friend of mine i'll get my hands on PE soon.
If possible i'd like to post a link for those who want to get in touch with him.... He has my file and can build the for Gato's front sail variation.
here hte two pics that made me happy.

Have a goodevening.

Rokket · « **Reply #61 on:** 23 May , 2013, 01:19 »

GREAT stuff!

Post links - of course!

Sniperonzolo · « **Reply #62 on:** 23 May , 2013, 10:43 »

here is fb contact: https://www.facebook.com/pages/LMS-Models/355035171178590?ref=ts&fref=ts

Sniperonzolo · « **Reply #63 on:** 24 Jun , 2013, 15:41 »

Goodevening.

Here there are some pics of the new PE from LMS Models fitted on Barb.

SG · « **Reply #64 on:** 25 Jun , 2013, 16:04 »

Sniper it looks terrific! also, i like the cleanliness of the job..and the entrapped man

. keep up the excellent work. i'll stand by for new wip posts

Rokket · « **Reply #65 on:** 07 Jul , 2013, 07:35 »

Sniperonzolo · « **Reply #66 on:** 09 Jul , 2013, 12:46 »

good evening

here some new pics of USS Barb Yard.

Now have to find out armament .... very confused...Nautilus? White Enisigh? Floating Dry dock?

Rokket · « **Reply #67 on:** 12 Jul , 2013, 22:34 »

Looks beautiful! Great details well done! I'd try WEM first.

Sniperonzolo · « **Reply #68 on:** 19 Jul , 2013, 08:29 »

Rokket... looks like i've bought something from

and bought wem too 2x 20mm + antennas.
I've been very busy this week so be back on BARB YARD on monday!!!

Keep in touch...

OldNoob · « **Reply #69 on:** 23 Jul , 2013, 05:46 »

Beautiful!

Sniperonzolo · « **Reply #70 on:** 25 Jun , 2014, 13:45 »

USS BARB Yard news:

after one year waiting for a restock of the 20mm orelikon single Mount finally i'm back with some new pics.
Well what i have to say is that i have a huge work to do to transform them is something closer to real one, at the end i've used the resin part and few parts from the pe modifing them a lot...lot .... looooot.
i have to do one more single and then i'll have to work on the 2x20m for the rear sail.
Here there are also some pics of the rear rorpedo work i've started long time ago... probably someone will recognize them

have fun and good night.

upload immagini gratis

SG · « **Reply #71 on:** 25 Jun , 2014, 23:45 »

Awesome work Sniper! I like the aft section! Excellent scratchbuilding of the AA gun too! Way to go!!

Rokket · « **Reply #72 on:** 26 Jun , 2014, 01:57 »

Glad you're back! Nice work - as always!!!

Sniperonzolo · « **Reply #73 on:** 25 Oct , 2015, 04:31 »

Back to work,

after a long stop i come across some very interesting PE... Ota and RCsubs gave me what i was looking for... complete wood deck with also enlarged deck for twin boat. And after a big mess while gleing big pices at the end here it is...

SG · « **Reply #74 on:** 25 Oct , 2015, 11:58 »

Looking good! I love the interiors detail. Are you going to separate those flooding holes which can be seen from the hatch from the main passageway or not? Was it like that in reality?
Standing by for further progress, Great work so far!

Sniperonzolo · « **Reply #75 on:** 26 Oct , 2015, 14:42 »

Quote from: SG on 25 Oct , 2015, 11:58

Looking good! I love the interiors detail. Are you going to separate those flooding holes which can be seen from the hatch from the main passageway or not? Was it like that in reality?
Standing by for further progress, Great work so far!

do u mean the stairs that goes down in the front of the submarine? they are like Eduard PE... or are u speaking about the two sails doors ? for that i am going to build something .. inside the sail hoping...

please let me know and ty !

SG · « **Reply #76 on:** 26 Oct , 2015, 17:04 »

The hatch with the ladder towards the bow. 10th picture from the top.

Rokket · « **Reply #77 on:** 30 Oct , 2015, 00:53 »

decks are mighty nice too!

Sniperonzolo · « **Reply #78 on:** 04 Nov , 2015, 10:57 »

SG ciao

the ladder is part of Eduard PE...
Rokket ciao
yup i like them even if the little gap Junction with the central part... (for rc submarines) soon i'll be able to post further pics

best regards

Author Topic: USS Barb SS-220 Revell 1/72 (Read 52981 times)

TGarthConnelly

Seewolf

carr

Mike K

bracco_n

chipper

Mike K

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