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Revell Type IXC 1/72 - AMP Conning Tower Malings planned?
schemelschelm:
Hello @all and best wishes for 2014!
I had the Revell Type IXC in 1/72 under the christmas tree and I'm interested in other decals for the boat.
Do you know, that AMP plans the release of other Turm-Malings for the IXC? I hope, there will be some different variants available?
And: The IXC from Revell has the "Turm III" - modification. How many IXC's had this conning tower variant?
I dont't know how many IXC's has this modification, but that surely limits the Maling-variants.
Greets from Germany,
Martin
dougie47:
Hello Martin,
Happy New Year to you and indeed everyone on the AMP forum.
I think the Turm III was designed for Type VIIDs so that the mine-shafts would not be covered over by the guns or platforms. It used 2 X 2cm C/38s on a widened bridge, presumably side by side.
It is my understanding (please correct me if I am wrong) but I am almost certain that U 505 had the Turm IV in June 1944. The boat cannot have had Turm III because Turm II only used 2 X 2cm guns on one platform.
By the way, U 505 had the original tower when launched, then converted to Turm II, and finally converted to Turm IV.
I can only assume that the Turm III reference in the Revell instructions is incorrect. Perhaps they thought Turm IV was specific only to Type VIICs? In any case, I think both type IXs and VIICs had Turm II and Turm IV, though the sizes of the Turms may have varied between the IX and VIIC.
For the decals, we have only just completed the design of the U 505 emblem (without red background!) and the corrected Type IX waterline draft marking decals. So I haven't really had a chance to research other emblems yet. The Revell kit is suitable for a IXC without a snorchel but with the Turm IV (so any non-snort IXCs which went on patrol during or after the summer of 1943 should be suitable). This does cut down the number of boats available.
There is a debate about whether the kit is suitable for IXC/40s as well. It may be because the size differences are small in 72nd scale and externally the boats may look virtually the same in photos. When I look at photos of the IXC U 505 and the IXC/40 U 534 I can't see any differences between them just by looking at them.
For decals, we could do the Olympic rings and axe for U 505 under Zschech. Also the 4th U-Flotille sybmbol was carried by a few so we could do that. Is there any emblem you wish to see?
Cheers,
Dougie
schemelschelm:
Hi Dougie,
many thanks for your comment, I make the mistake to trust in Revell's explenation of the boat. :)
Mmh, for example U-172 with the Poseidon looks interesting.
But I'm not sure that it has the Turm IV.
dougie47:
Hi Martin,
The U 172 emblem is a really good one. I would think the boat must have had a Turm IV when sunk in December 1943 but I can't be sure that the Poseidon emblem at that time. It probably did but I haven't evidence to back it up.
Cheers,
Dougie
schemelschelm:
Hi Dougie,
very cool, that's interesting. Uboat.net says that the boat has three different emblems over it's time of duty: Poseidon, 187843 (tonnage) and leaves and cross, Motorex (white ship outline on black background of the tanker "Motorex").
Here's the link: U-172
But there the emblem pics are not visible. :-\
It's also interesting, because U-172 was a very succesful boat - 26 ships sunk, 152080 GRT.
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