VIIC/41 - Schematices drawing

[NZSnowman]

Hi Dougie

Just wanting to confirm about the flood vents in the central drainage area:

That all late war Type VIIC

[dougie47]

Hi Simon,

Yes, I think so on both counts. I should point out that when I wrote the vent pattern article a while back I had even less late war photos than now. So while I think that late war boats had the evenly spaced pattern, I can't be certain every boat was build like this. So many boats, so many yards...

Thank for your excellent engine room drawing. I dare say that drawing has more than a few objects in Coreldraw!

Cheers,

Dougie

[NZSnowman]

Thank for your excellent engine room drawing. I dare say that drawing has more than a few objects in Coreldraw!

Yes, just under 29,000 now, and 170,000 for the main drawing 

[NZSnowman]

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[NZSnowman]

Does anyone know how the ammunition for the 3.7cm or 2cm was store in the ammunition container? Was it in ammunition boxes or in ammunition clips?

Thanks, Simon

[NZSnowman]

I was looking for pictures of the 3.7cm ammunition on the web this morning and I am thinking that the Germans stored the ammunition in metal ammunition boxes like in (Fig. 1) and in wooden ammunition boxes in the main magazine (Fig. 2).

Any thoughts on this?


Fig. 1. 2cm Flak 30/38 magazine container.


Fig. 2. 2cm ammunition box. All 2cm ammunition came in 100

[Trader]

Hello Simon
Here is a link for many Boxes http://wehrmachts.kisten.free.fr/

[NZSnowman]

Hello Simon
Here is a link for many Boxes http://wehrmachts.kisten.free.fr/

Thanks!!! Will be very useful for my drawing.

[Greif]

Great work and a big thank you Simon!  I only wish I had had the drawing when I was build my Eingine Room interior.  It is much better then most of the photos I had for reference.  Again, thank you and fantastic work.

Ernest

Hi All

Here is a small way to thanks all the people who have helped me over the last two years with my drawing.

I have prepared a 1:24 scale poster of a Type VIIC engine room. The poster is primly to be printer at A3 size, nevertheless, as the drawing is in a PDF format (12MB) it is possible to print it at any page size, without any lost of detail.

I welcome any feed back, mistakes etc

[Pat]

Yes, that's the pic I'd lost Snowman.  Thanks.

The rail pic also proves that I need to make a ship's bell too.  But that raises a question.

Does anybody know if all U-boats had a bell?  And if so, did they remove it when on patrol and that would account for pictures without a bell in evidence?

It seems to me that if a boat was diving that the bell might make a noise and give it away to Sonar/ASDIC listeners.  (Most ship's bells are firmly fixed and it's the clapper that moves by pulling a cord.  The clapper wouldn't move in the open air but might when affected by denser water flow.)

[dougie47]

Hi pat,

The bell was sometimes seen on pre-war photos (the most likely time to see in would be during commisssioning).

Even in port it isn't usually seen in wartime shots, though you may find a few exceptions.

Cheers,

Dougie

[NZSnowman]

Here a view rarely seen in U-Boat, a cross-section of a Turn 5 Wintergarten. After doing as much research on this Wintergarten style here are two drawings. The first drawing is a view of all the internal framing, the second drawing includes the 2cm and 3.7cm ammunition containers, the upper and lower gun support, and the Life Raft Container.

[NZSnowman]

There a row of double rivets just fore of the rudder (in red). As the upper deck of U-995 was replace I am unsure how far to take it.

I was wondering that others think as to how far I should take this row, either to the 'top of the deck' or to the other row of 'double rivets' (in blue which is also missing on U-995)?


Picture from http://www.uboataces.com/u995.shtml

[UrpoK]

Hi Simon,
I don't know the answer, but I think the "double bubble row" is a part of the aft torpedo tube frame.
Timo

[UrpoK]

If so,
I wouldn't take it no further than to the other row of 'double rivets'.

I was wondering that others think as to how far I should take this row, either to the 'top of the deck' or to the other row of 'double rivets' (in blue which is also missing on U-995)?