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Re: Dingi on Typ VIIC
« Reply #15 on: 04 May , 2015, 13:51 »
Hi All,


Best photo of the row boat yet SG


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« Reply #16 on: 04 May , 2015, 15:53 »
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Re: Dingi on Typ VIIC
« Reply #17 on: 06 May , 2015, 00:41 »
Fantastic
 
Thanks for this great Picture
 
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Re: Dingi on Typ VIIC
« Reply #18 on: 06 May , 2015, 08:30 »
David I've checked the technical drawing again and it looks like the dinghy is stored on its side rather than upside down. Just magnify the original drawing. What do you think about that?   
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Re: Dingi on Typ VIIC
« Reply #19 on: 06 May , 2015, 09:13 »
Hello SG, hello all

i' m not David but i hope my reply is also welcome:

The Dingi was stored sidways on Type II and VII.
Upside down i know from Type IX.
Dingi's where only used in early war years. Later they where replaced by Lifeboats and a bigger rubber boat.
On other Types i dont know. But Type XXI and XXIII hat no dingi on board. They use a rubber boat from beginning.

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Re: Dingi on Typ VIIC
« Reply #20 on: 06 May , 2015, 15:20 »
Uboatfan thats a great piece of information, thank you for joining!
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Re: Dingi on Typ VIIC
« Reply #21 on: 09 May , 2015, 06:12 »
Hello all,

i looked up all my books and pictures....

It seems that the dingi was a wooden boat (Klinkered Hull?) in early days (Type I, II and VII A/B) and later made of metal with a smooth hull (Type VII C and IX).

In every case the dingi was tiny.

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Re: Dingi on Typ VIIC
« Reply #22 on: 09 May , 2015, 13:06 »
Hi all,


Anyone have any details as to where the dinghy is stowed on a type II?, none of my plans show it and there does not seem to be much space in the outer hull for one.


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Re: Dingi on Typ VIIC
« Reply #23 on: 09 May , 2015, 14:50 »
Hello,

At all my plans it is located on the right side under the deck. Position between front end of pressure hull and anf end of torpedo tubes. The boat is faced with it upside to right side of the hull. The covers at the deck are located in the middle of the boat.

You willalso find all these Informations in the publication "Vom Original zum Modell: Uboottyp II - Die "Einbäume"- from Eberhard Rössler (ISBN 3-7637-6023-7).

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Re: Dingi on Typ VIIC
« Reply #24 on: 10 May , 2015, 13:18 »
Hi uboatfan,


Could you tell me where in Vom Original zum Modell there is a reference to the dinghy location in a type II, I am unable to see it in any of the plans and as my German is moderately rubbish a page number would be a great help.


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Re: Dingi on Typ VIIC
« Reply #25 on: 10 May , 2015, 13:57 »
Hello Jon,

no problem:
Page  79, bottom right (on the drawing), sectional drawing H-H (dingi faces outside)
Page 81, upper left, sectional drawing H-H (Dingi faces inside)

On the drawings at pages 84 and 85 you will see the position of the dingi as smal dashed line.
Bow just below the second bollard. Rear at the middle between the second stanchion and the end of the torpedo tubes.

It is difficult to see, but it is visible.

unfortunately this drawing where never published in a larger scale.

Hope you will find it now...

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Re: Dingi on Typ VIIC
« Reply #26 on: 10 May , 2015, 20:24 »
Hi uboatfan,


Many thanks for that, it's easy to spot on the sectional drawings, when I looked, much less so on the overhead and plan views.
According to my quick calculations the plans make the dinghy approximately 3 x 0.89m, which is somewhat smaller than the type IX dinghy at around 3.4 x 1.4m, not surprising really. I don't have a figure for the type VII dinghy to hand.


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Re: Dingi on Typ VIIC
« Reply #27 on: 11 May , 2015, 14:09 »
Hello Jon,

that dimensions could be possible.
At "Bootsbau" from A.Brix (1911) i found a German-Kriegsmarine-dingi with the dimensions 3,60 m x 1,30 m. It looks like the dingi used later on type IX boats.
And at the Brix from 1929 a similar one (but for civil use) with 3,15 m x 1,13 m.
Both were disigned for harbour usage and a capacitie of 1 to 4 Persons (The bigger one).

OK, this drawings are more than 20 years older than the submarines, but they look identical.

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Re: Dingi on Typ VIIC
« Reply #28 on: 11 May , 2015, 14:28 »
Hi uboatfan,


It is definitely possible, particularly the larger boat being the same as the one for a type IX, there is no saying how accurate the type IX plans are so the small difference could be accounted for.


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Re: Dingi on Typ VIIC
« Reply #29 on: 14 Apr , 2017, 01:33 »
Found another pic of the wooden dinghy. it took time  ;D
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