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Offline dbauer

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Re: Type IXC accessories
« Reply #30 on: 09 Mar , 2014, 07:54 »
 :) I have a question:
When was the Bekon Gerat installed on U-505?  If you have the 105 deck gun would you also need to make a major refit and have the lower sounding gear  removed ? That would mean a major reworking of the keel too.
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Dan

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Re: Type IXC accessories
« Reply #31 on: 09 Mar , 2014, 08:04 »
Hi Dan,

The Balcongerät was fitted in the refit between 2nd January 1944 to 16th March 1944. So yes, if you want to show U 505 with a 105mm you would have to remove the Balcongerät.

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Dougie

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Re: Type IXC accessories
« Reply #32 on: 09 Mar , 2014, 10:44 »
Thanks Dougie!
I just thought of that.  I am kicking around the idea of  building a U-505 after commisioning.  That would also require an earlier Trum I or II.  Do you know the time line between to retro fitting of the two early Trums?  Also what the early emblems would be?
Thanks Again,
Dan

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Re: Type IXC accessories
« Reply #33 on: 09 Mar , 2014, 12:03 »
Hi Dan,

I'm proof reading the U 505 article tonight and then it will go on the AMP website in the next few days. This should tell you about Turms and emblem dates.

You know, Revell did a 72nd VIIC and then followed it up with a VIIC/41. Then they did a VIIC and VIIC/41 in 144th scale. Its a fair bet they will do an early IXC in a few years time.

If you are toying with the idea of modifying the kit I'd go with a Turm II since I doubt Revell will go for that at a later date.

Cheers,

Dougie

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Re: Type IXC accessories
« Reply #34 on: 09 Mar , 2014, 16:20 »
 :o  That sounds Great Dougie!
 Do you have dates for the retro fit of the Trum II then?  Great! I am looking foward to reading your article. If it is anything like your Type VII article, it will be super!
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Dan

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Re: Type IXC accessories
« Reply #35 on: 09 Mar , 2014, 19:49 »
Brandon at Freetime just put out a note that the Nautilus XIC wooden deck set with accessories and pictures is done and advanced orders are being accepted. The list of accessories other than the deck is available on the Nautilus website. ;)

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Re: Type IXC accessories
« Reply #36 on: 10 Mar , 2014, 11:54 »
The Balcongerät was fitted in the refit between 2nd January 1944 to 16th March 1944. So yes, if you want to show U 505 with a 105mm you would have to remove the Balcongerät.

Sooooo just to clarify... if I am building my boat as being during the Turm IV refit (July 1943) then it will NOT have the Balcongerät ?
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Re: Type IXC accessories
« Reply #37 on: 10 Mar , 2014, 12:38 »
Hi Glenn,

Yes, that is correct. For your time frame in July 1943, you should -

- remove the Balcongeraet.

- not fit the FuMB Ant 3 Bali 1 antenna (part 169).

- it is okay to fit parts 198. But I would be inclined not to fit the Samoa dipoles (parts 199) (I don't know when the Samoa diploes were added but if I had to guess I'd say later in 1943).

- not fit the 37mm container (part 180).

You also need a Vierling rather than the 37mm.

The U 505 article is done and will be posted soon.

Cheers,

Dougie

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Re: Type IXC accessories
« Reply #38 on: 10 Mar , 2014, 17:24 »
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remove the Balcongeraet.
Roger that.  It will be interesting filling in the gap and shaping the keel.

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not fit the FuMB Ant 3 Bali 1 antenna (part 169).
Okay.  I had planned on installing a PE "Biscay Cross" that I have, but that was only mounted during operation and not likely would be up during a refit.  Shame... because the PE one I have is really nice.  :)

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it is okay to fit parts 198. But I would be inclined not to fit the Samoa dipoles (parts 199) (I don't know when the Samoa dipoles were added but if I had to guess I'd say later in 1943).
Okay.

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not fit the 37mm container (part 180).
Okay.

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You also need a Vierling rather than the 37mm.
This was the 1st thing I sourced when I planned this build.  I have a Vierling from the S-100, and have the nice Griffon & Eduard PE sets to add detail.   See my U-673 build... I had the Vierling on that and it turned out marvelous.  :D


Thank you very much, Dougie!
Looking forward to the new article.
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Re: Type IXC accessories
« Reply #39 on: 10 Mar , 2014, 18:09 »
 ;) Okay!
Now the next question: When was the 3rd Periscope removed ? My quess is that an early Trum II U-505 would have the 3rd scope. Would that be correct?  Any pics of a Type IX with the 3rd scope out there??
Thanks in advance.
Dan

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Re: Type IXC accessories
« Reply #40 on: 12 Mar , 2014, 10:52 »
Hi Dan
 
Only IXA's and B's had 3 periscopes, C's onward only had 2
 
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Re: Type IXC accessories
« Reply #41 on: 14 Mar , 2014, 01:07 »

Here are rare views from one inner section of the ixc. The video was shot during the "Nuremburg Toy Fair 2014" (go to minute 1:30). Look at the leaflet under the displayed torpedo room compartment, you can recognize some impressions of the other sections.

http://www.plastik-modellbau.org/blog/spielwarenmesse-2014-nachlese-video-vom-stand-firma-mpm-production/2014/

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Re: Type IXC accessories
« Reply #42 on: 14 Mar , 2014, 07:58 »
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Re: Type IXC accessories
« Reply #43 on: 14 Mar , 2014, 14:59 »
Torpedo tubes? Is that it? Went by so fast, I don't want to think I missed it.

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Re: Type IXC accessories
« Reply #44 on: 14 Mar , 2014, 18:38 »
Thanks,
Another piece to the puzzle solved!
Dan 8)