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The real Type VIIDs
dougie47:
Hi guys,
This thread is for discussion on the real Type VIID U-boats. If anyone has any information on the real boats please share it here. All aspects of the six VIIDs can be discussed (the patrol history, commanders, operational effectiveness, technical features, colour schemes and insignia of each individual boat, modifications made to each boat etc.).
We can start with U 213. Does anyone have info on this boat?
Cheers,
Dougie
bracco_n:
This photo album from U218 was sold some time ago, it contains some very interesting photos of said boat:
http://www.historical-media.com/id1012.htm
That's all I have to report about VIIDs, too bad I've already started work on U94. Good luck with the group build!
NZSnowman:
I saw a great book on the Kriegsmarine (I can not remember the title), it had a whole chapter on U-218, with many fantastic pictures of the boat, which were from the photographs album above.
By the way, a fantastic set of photographs of U-218 :o
I have a partially original Type VIID plan, it show the mine tubes and the Control Room, I can post it.
Links
http://www.uboat.net/boats/u213.htm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_submarine_U-213
http://www.ubootwaffe.net/ops/boat.cgi?boat=213
Pictures of U-213
(Source: http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showpost.php?p=1077603&postcount=105)
dougie47:
Hi guys,
Good photos Nicolas, hadn't seen them before.
Simon, the second photo you posted (showing crewman saluting on aft deck) - I'm pretty sure this is U 47 in the autumn of 1940 in Lorient. The reason it may have been mislabelled as U 213 is Amelung von Varendorff. He became commander of U 213 but earlier he was a watch officer on U 47 from, if memory serves me correctly, the start of Scapa mission (patrol 2) until the end of patrol 9. He is very likely to be one of the officers in the photo in the U 47 photo.
It was Von Varendorff's association with U 47 which lead to him choosing the snorting bull as the personal insigia of U 213.
Cheers,
Dougie
NZSnowman:
Thanks for the update, and information about 2nd picture. It would not be the first time a war time photograph has been mislabelled ;D
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