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TYPE II / Re: "Vesikko" 1/72 - Special Navy
« Last post by dougie47 on 20 Oct , 2017, 11:40 »
Hello folks,

We did study the Vesikko hull in depth when designing the AMP set as we were wondering whether we could do a seperate Vesikko set. I am quite rusty with this knowledge as it is so long ago. What I do recall is that there is one main difference between the hull of the Vesikko and the IIA. The Vesikko has one sweeping curve in the mid-hull area; the IIAs had a deeper main drainage area which cut downwards at the front and back. I assume that Special Navy will address this in their new kit.

The other thing I remember is that the Vesikko had a completely different tower and completely different deck.

Some of the hull vent parts on the AMP IIA set (those near the bow) will actually be applicable to the Vesikko. But the majority of our set will not be relevant to a Vesikko model.

Does anybody have Timo Merensilta's book "Vesikko: Suomenlahden Hiljainen Vartija" (Hobby-Kustannus Oy, 2009)? I sold it a few years ago because I needed money quickly to buy a second-hand OTW 32nd scale VIIC model. I wish I hadn't sold Timo's book but just needed the cash at the time. Could anybody loan me this book for a short time? Or does anybody have a copy they are willing to sell?

Cheers,

Dougie 
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TYPE II / Re: "Vesikko" 1/72 - Special Navy
« Last post by GlennCauley on 20 Oct , 2017, 10:35 »
I wonder how much there is difference with Vesikko and AMP detail kit? The CT is much larger in Vesikko...

Maybe Dougie can shed some light on that, given that he & Wink were responsible for the original AMP detail kit.
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TYPE II / Re: "Vesikko" 1/72 - Special Navy
« Last post by Anakin on 20 Oct , 2017, 09:28 »
It,s coming!

COOL !!!
So now we have the original kit "Type II" with the AMP detail set... and the actual Vekikko kit coming?


Was it year 2006 when they first time "promised" it to be released... A long time to wait! Especially for a Finnish submarine nuts! :D
A must have for me :) I wonder how much there is difference with Vesikko and AMP detail kit? The CT is much larger in Vesikko...
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Hi Simon and Mr Tore,


Great images... I believe I may need to do some major changes to this Skizzenbuch section with all the latest drawings. It looks like the gate valves in this set of drawings has access for the change-over through the wooden deck doors. Again, I don't believe there is room for a hand-wheel to be installed on these gate valves...


(37096971424_5f62d20993_o) - this drawing sort of compares to the attached photo of U-201. If you look at the RED circled area there is a hole in the deck.  During the change-over to the water ballast configuration the FBT 2 and FBT 4 gate valves must be opened (access through the wooded deck doors)?


What does this mean for the drawing for U - 1308 and the metal plates with holes to change the gate valve configuration?


However, the header tank water pressure to FBT 2 and FBT 4 must also be cut-off.  Could the round holes in the deck be the access point to change-over the header tank water pressure selector valves? I remember the photos of the Type IX/C U-534 had the selector valves under the deck with what looked like there was plenty of room to install a hand-wheel, but there was none to be seen...


Regards,
Don_
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Hi Don

I was looking at page 86 and the FBT4's gates valves are cover with different hatches compare to FBT2's. I will try to post pictures today after work.

Simon


Fig. 1. Port FBT4's gates valve hatch.
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Fig. 2. Starborad FBT4's gates valve hatch.
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Hi Simon,


No rush...  I'm only at page 237 on my review of Skizzenbuch.


Regards,
Don_
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Hi Don

I was looking at page 86 and the FBT4's gates valves are cover with different hatches compare to FBT2's. I will try to post pictures today after work.

Simon
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Hello Mr. Tore,


From what I can see on the Type VII U-Boats, the hand-wheels were not installed on the gate valves for FBT2 and FBT 4 on the venting duct; there was no room for the hand-wheels because of the deck space above was practically nil.  However, there looks to possibly be space to install the hand-wheels on the FBT 2 residual gate valves. The photo of the crewman going out in bad weather with a claw tool in his hand may support that theory. We'll just wait and see if Simon's new drawing of the hand-wheels for the gate valves on the FBT 2 residual cross-over pipe has the space above and below the deck...


I uploaded my latest version of Skizzenbuch to my Dropbox folder which has major changes to pages 86 and 88 (lower half)...


Regards,
Don_
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Nice build!


The interior of conning tower, have you scratch built the piping or is there an actual kit for this?


Best regards,


Anders
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ALL other U-boats / Re: U-Boot XXIII SN finished
« Last post by Islandern on 17 Oct , 2017, 06:50 »
What a beautiful built unreal86! I was reading or checking on the picture in the czech forum there.


How did you do the interior of conning tower? Is it completely scratch built? Piping, exhaust, silencer etc.


(Old thread, but I give it a try as my XXIII is on the table for the moment.)


Best regards,


Anders



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